1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

RedneckCatter

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Hello everyone. Been a while and a long winter. Built a new boat from scratch. Was a shell going to be burned. Its looking great. Now i picked up the 60ESL70b for 200 dollars and got everything running smooth and great EXCEPT one issue. Ive been doing all kinds of research and when ever i have anything i cant figure out i always end up here. :)

When i start it it starts great but sometimes the starter is still engaged. I have to remove the cable from the battery quick or it heats up fast. The starter seems to be working good and isnt sticking. Even with the key off sometimes by connecting the cable from the solenoid to the battery back up it will spin the starter up. Im figuring the solenoid is going bad and is keeping contact sometimes which is providing power to the starter. Ive tested the switch and even tried another swith between the ignition and the solenoid. Didnt matter still spun the starter. If needed till i find the right part i could always just disconnect the starter from the solenoid and jump it as needed with a separate wire ran to the battery compartment.

Ive been looking for the proper solenoid to replace it with. ********** gave the part number of 0383622 but im not too familiar with them. Iboats says that the Sierra 18-5808, Arco SW622 and Mallory 9-15104 are the correct ones and that they replace 582708 and 395419. My question is are these correct before i go ordering one because i have not seen those "Replaces" parts numbers anywhere else. Ive also heard that local auto stores have ones that will work but i dont want one that may fry out after a few uses. Thanks for the time and hope to get some answers i can work with.
 

sean mathews

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

hey i got one of those old johnsons.
i,ve been using a solenoid from the local parts store with no issues other than it was a pain to make fit in the hole where it mounts.
 

RedneckCatter

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

Do i just take the solenoid in and try to find one that fits or are there specific specs that it needs to meet too?
 

sean mathews

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

think the one im using is off about an 85 ford f150. but i would take the old one in when i purchased a new one. ive put alot of work into my old motor. mostly electrical stuff. oh yeah dont pull that battery cable when the motors running. i learned that the hard way. the cdi ignition is very easily destroyed by spikes in the voltage
 

RedneckCatter

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

The temporary route i would take would be to leave the solenoid hooked up and just romove the big red cable from it that goes to the starter. Id un hook it from the starter as well. Then id hook a new battery cable to the starter and run it to the battery compartment. When i needed to start the motor id turn everything on as normal and just touch the cable going to the starter to the + terminal. Once started i just untouch it and stash it aside. That shouldnt hurt anything would it?
 

sean mathews

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

just makes alot of sparks and a real poa in my opinion. then ther is the safety issue of sparks starting fire
 

RedneckCatter

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

true. At the price im just going to replace the solenoid. But if in a jam on the water it would come in handy.
 

airman1094

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

Bad solenoid for sure! Bad thing about the sparks around the battery though! In some cases they can catch on fire due to the release of hydrogen as a byproduct of charging! Just be safe!
 

sean mathews

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Re: 1970 60ESL70b Starter Issues

yeah i wouldnt do that because my batery and fuel tanks all live in very close proximity to eachother
 
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