1970 something Chrysler 105

alldodge

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Started looking at the Chrysler 105 Conquer boat I pickup for $150 this spring. One of the reasons the guy was selling it cheap is the bottom two cylinders are cracked on the 105. So will need another block or part it out and put something else on it. Looked for the serial number plate inside and it's missing so don't really know what year it is.

Will post some pics later but there was a bunch of mud dobber nest in there
 

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Wow, nice buy! I've been hoping to find something like that up here, for parts. One day...
 

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The conqueror is a cult boat with Chrysler enthusiasts. You got a steal even with a completely crap engine. Now. The damage to the aluminum casting of the block is not repairable.

Find another block from 105 on up to 140 (Even a Force block if you get the complete ignition) and mount it on your leg. Your engine is NOT a 105 (even if the cover says so) or a 120 because it has the big tillotsen carbs and the large 3.375 bore pistons. It is also definitely not a 125. It can be a 115, 135, or 140. Measure the stroke with a good depth gauge. If it is 2.875, it is a 140. Single fuel pump so it probably is not a 140.

You have Motorola distributor ignition. The distributor is a single wire which means it has points and the block would be prior to 1977. After that Motorola came equipped with an electric eye distributor.

If you have a two piece lower unit the whole engine is prior to a978.

Now, I don't remember the rating of the Conqueror but if the engine has no model and serial or has one from a 105, then either the block or tag, or both have been changed to comply with maximum HP limits of the hull.
 
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Thanks Frank, I have the two piece leg. You say I can get a Force block with ignition and use everything else from the Chrysler block? Or get a complete Force engine? Will continue to look around for a block and get some measurements later

The plate on the boat states 105hp max, figure that would be about right for a 16 foot boat

Still plan to get into the boat, have only done a bit of clean up.
 

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There you go! Previous owner wanted more power than the 105. Incidentally, the 105 really only produced about 90 HP. In 82 or 84, Chrysler discontinued the 105 and simply down-rated it to 90 to comply with NMMA regulations requiring horsepower to be measured at the prop. The block stud pattern for ALL four cylinder engines remained the same even after mercury started mounting it on their midleg. However, The mercury engines have no studs and a match plate is bolted to the block. SO: To make a long story short, Any Force block prior to 1994 will mount to your leg. However, with these blocks you also need the flywheel and complete ignition system.

Respectfully speaking, the two piece lower unit is regressive and slow. It is a poor design and props are difficult to get. Why not buy a whole used engine? Get a nice Force 120 and change the lower cowl, use a 105 cover, and use a 105 model number plate.inside the lower cowl. Then, for all intents you have powered the boat with a 105. Engine weight is the same so there are no worries there.

Look up Frank Acampora on youtube. I have a video there of a 125 with a 120 crankshaft on a 15 foot Glastron. (rated for 90) It does a solid 45 with no bad habits.
 
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Will do, I'll start looking around for the 120 and have a look at your youtube. Thanks
 
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