1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

[surveywaters]

I have a 1971 Evinrude 6hp Fisherman (6102G). I want to put a battery on the jon boat for lights and possibly a 12v outlet; I would like the motor to charge it. Is this a possibility? Is there a stator that can fit or anything like that? I can install a regulator/rectifier I just need a blip of juice every revolution.

 

[nwcove]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

look into a solar panel! jmo

 

[raczekp1]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

its posible but you need to find stator plate+ 2 external coils.
in year 1974-1979 omc made johnson/evinrude 6 hp with ignition containng under flywheel 2 points+1 charging coil +1 coil for 12v output
but at the side of powerhead there was 2 ignition coils

 

[F_R]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

its posible but you need to find stator plate+ 2 external coils.
in year 1974-1979 omc made johnson/evinrude 6 hp with ignition containng under flywheel 2 points+1 charging coil +1 coil for 12v output
but at the side of powerhead there was 2 ignition coils

Well, I don't know about Poland, but that is not true of USA motors. That external coils system with a driver coil and breaker points was the OMC Lo-Tension Magneto, never used on the 6hp. The 6hp continued to use the OMC Universal Magneto up through 1976, then in 1977 went directly to Mag CD electronic ignition. And even if you could put a Lo-Tension on it, which I don't think you can, there would be many more parts that would need to be changed. The flywheel is one of them.

Summing up, you can't add a charging system to a 6hp that has the OMC Universal Magneto. The Lo-Tension mag came out in 1974 on the 9.9 and 15hp motors----to make room for a charging system---and was only used for two years. And a 9.9/15 is vastly different than a 6hp.

 

[Silvertip]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

Solar panels are not the answer either. A solar panel the size of your boat would be needed to provide any significanet charge. Most of the small panels you see advertized are less than 10 WATT (not AMPS). 12 watts for example is equivalent to 1 amp which would hardly light the bulb in the tail light of your car.

 

[kbait]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

I've used a lawn tractor battery to power running lights (LED) and a fish locator - X87 Lowrance. It'd last probably 25 hours until charge was needed. A large deep cycle would likely last 100+ hours. LED lights draw MUCH less power as compared to filament (hot) bulbs.

If you just need a battery for running lights, go to LED's and your battery will last a VERY long time.

Agreed that you cannot add a charging circuit to your 6hp w/o re-designing it.

Good luck!

 

[raczekp1]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

hi.
wel F_R i admire your skils at omc motors, but look at this
Evinrude-Johnson SeaHors 6 HP 1976 - YouTube

its johnson,with points ignition but with AC output,
i had evinrude 77' with points igniton but wit AC output
only to add rectifer and you get DC

 

[nwcove]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

wonder what country that vid was taken in? the motor is labeled in english, but the dog was barking in german???

 

[nwcove]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

Battery Charging Kit 6 Hp Electrical 1978 Accessories for 1978 Johnson Evinrude Outboards

looks like a kit was made available for the 1978 model.

 

[F_R]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

hi.
wel F_R i admire your skils at omc motors, but look at this
Evinrude-Johnson SeaHors 6 HP 1976 - YouTube

its johnson,with points ignition but with AC output,
i had evinrude 77' with points igniton but wit AC output
only to add rectifer and you get DC

I'll stand by what I said, at least till somebody proves me wrong. I said that 1976 6hp motors made in USA had the Universal Magneto with no room for lighting coils. I'm not arguing that European motors might not be different, which is obviously true. You guys had that AC lighting system on many motors that we did not. Fact is, it is a rarity in US. Isn't it about standard equipment in Europe?

nwcove, the 1978 had a battery charging kit because it had Mag CD ignition---just as I said.

 

[surveywaters]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

I am really amazed by the response on this thread, the forum doesn't seem very active when looking at views vs replies on most threads.
I appreciate the input so far. This is a US production motor so that may be a problem, but I'll look into the possibilities listed. A solar panel is useless for a boat like this; I can just charge it up at home easily enough. I am simply trying to avoid that hastle. My hope was to put the smallest battery possible in conjunction with an active and efficient charging system. I have a Lowe 1242 which has very limited space by the tank.I really enjoy the vintage of a motor like this and have no intention of purchasing a new one as long as this beauty is running like a top; so I'd like to get all I can out of it.

 

[nwcove]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

have you looked into a booster pack? they all come with a 12v outlet, weigh around 15lbs, about the size of a big lunchbox. many now come with a usb charging port for the all important devices. ( ive used a battery ,taken from one that got run over, for countless hours without charging it, then connected cables , and boosted a car!) just a thought.

 

[TN-25]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

If your jon boat can accept a motor up to 10 horses, you might want to see about finding a used electric start 9.9 from 1974 -through. They came with charging systems already. That might ultimately be your most cost effective solution. The 9.9 is compact and not all that heavy. Heck, if your boat can take up to 7.5 horses then a 9.9 is not too far over, and who says you need to run it a WOT anyway?

Perhaps as another poster suggested, keep your 6 horse since you might only need a marine deep cycle battery for running a sonar and the occasional running lights. You can trickle charge it when you get back home. LED running lights use a lot less "juice".

 

[the machinist]

Re: 1971 Evinrude 6hp I want a charging circuit

On my small boat, (12' fiberglass trihull) last year we vacationed west of Williams Lake BC. My power was a 84 6hp Johnson with no chargign capabilities. I rigged up a portable depthfinder using a standard lawnmower battery. My depthfinder also had a voltage indicator built into it. I trolled MANY hours with the DF on all the time. My voltage never dropped below 12.7 volts. When we got home & used it for another 2 days of fishing. I have not recharged this battery yet. Just went out & turned it on, first time since early November & it still reads 12.7V

Even if you go to the 9.9/15 hp with charging capabilities, these systems are WEAK as compared to the current manufactured motors. I used to run a 92 9.9hp as a troller on my 18' aluminum North River boat. Even with the charger system on it & funtioning, I would run the battery down enough that I could tell it was low when I would try to start the main motor to head home, with a week's worth of daylong trolling