1972 Evinrude 9225m - speed control lever issue

james79s

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Hello all, new to the forum, and in fact new to boating! I recently purchased a cottage and I was left with a vintage 1972 Evinrude 9.5HP outboard. I have it running, and pretty smoothly at that, however I have run into 1 potential problem. Just a heads up, I am new to all this so go easy on me!!!

The speed control level, I seem to only be able to turn it to the left or "start" towards "fast". To the right of "star" it says "shift" and "slow", however I can't access those. The engine does slow when I turn back towards start. Is that meant to be a closer of "start, ****, slow" and I am not meant to turn further to the right?

I can also easily shift between R, N, D when I am over in the "start" position, so I *think* I know the answer, however I don't want to break anything.

Thank you all in advance for your help, this newbie really appreciates it!

James
 
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racerone

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Visit-------leroysramblings-----Learn all about this fine just 60 lbs motor.----Many folks hate that design but I think they run very nicely.----Install a new water pump impeller.----Check thermostat as the are usually stuck open.
 

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Visit-------leroysramblings-----Learn all about this fine just 60 lbs motor.----Many folks hate that design but I think they run very nicely.----Install a new water pump impeller.----Check thermostat as the are usually stuck open.
Thanks for your reply, I have read that site back and front, I just don't have the knowledge to have been able to put those things together, so I appreciate it. However I just want to confirm, should I be able to turn the handle to the right of "start" or is it a cluster and it should stop there?

Like I said, the engine is running well, and I feel it wouldn't be if it needed a new impeller, am I wrong?

Thanks again, I really appreciate the help
 

Crosbyman

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bad impellers become slow ....sometimes sudden death change the impeller if not known to be recent


btw try to rotate the idle speed knob on the side of the engine... it limits the handle travel
to set the idle speed to a set point & it blocks the rotation range
 
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The knob at the "elbow" where the tiller arm pivots upward is the idle speed limiter. It determines how far you can turn the twist grip toward the "slow/stop" direction. With that set at whatever idle speed you desire, you must push the stop button to kill the ignition to stop the motor (NOT turn the twist grip to "stop").
 

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The knob at the "elbow" where the tiller arm pivots upward is the idle speed limiter. It determines how far you can turn the twist grip toward the "slow/stop" direction. With that set at whatever idle speed you desire, you must push the stop button to kill the ignition to stop the motor (NOT turn the twist grip to "stop").
I know exactly what you mean, I was playing with that knob, so it would seem that I inadvertently limited my idle speed incorrectly. Just to be safe, you are referring to the knob in the picture below right?tempImageRtZAex.pngI will give this a shot on the weekend when I am back up there and report back.

Thanks!!!
 

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It seems that folks do not want to listen to sound advice.-----Install a new impeller now !!-----The motor does NOT have a warning system or a shutdown system should it overheat.-----It would run until it goes ----BBHHOOOM----You would then be shopping for another motor.
 

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REF: kill button
I have fixed up a few 9.5 engines and the kill buttons will sometimes not work due to corrosion inside.

you can carefully unscrew the back nut and pull it out . pry off the rubber
cap and polish the conical surface and 2 contact points inside.

inspect the wires which can become very brittle. if real bad or totally gone...you can rewire the switch with new wires if you are handy with a soldering iron . the snap connectors are tricky to rewire and can be redone but any 2 wire connector can replace them or splice in the switch without them.

the switch body plastic are also brittle handle carefully
 

james79s

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It seems that folks do not want to listen to sound advice.-----Install a new impeller now !!-----The motor does NOT have a warning system or a shutdown system should it overheat.-----It would run until it goes ----BBHHOOOM----You would then be shopping for another motor.
I hear you, and I will also be doing that. I am also just trying to learn all the ins and outs about this motor. Just so I better understand, what with this situation implies to you that the motor is overheating? It isn't getting hot at all, however is that not a symptom?

Thanks again
 

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If you do not know the age or condition of the impeller you need to install a new one.----A golden rule of buying / getting an old outboard motor.----The impeller could be cracked / brittle and fail without notice.----It is that simple !
 

james79s

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REF: kill button
I have fixed up a few 9.5 engines and the kill buttons will sometimes not work due to corrosion inside.

you can carefully unscrew the back nut and pull it out . pry off the rubber
cap and polish the conical surface and 2 contact points inside.

inspect the wires which can become very brittle. if real bad or totally gone...you can rewire the switch with new wires if you are handy with a soldering iron . the snap connectors are tricky to rewire and can be redone but any 2 wire connector can replace them or splice in the switch without them.

the switch body plastic are also brittle handle carefully
The kill button works fine, no issues there. My only issue is I can't turn the shifter handle to the right of the START position.
 

james79s

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If you do not know the age or condition of the impeller you need to install a new one.----A golden rule of buying / getting an old outboard motor.----The impeller could be cracked / brittle and fail without notice.----It is that simple !
Oh I see, it's unrelated to the shifter turning issue, but just something that I need to do as good practice on an old outboard motor. Do I have that right? Thank you so much, I will be putting that on my priority project list right now!
 

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btw never force the throttle handle otherwise you can strip this part of the linkage associated with the side idle knob !!!
 

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racerone

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Sorry to be so blunt.----But on more than one occasion folks have learned about impellers through an empty wallet.
 

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Sorry to be so blunt.----But on more than one occasion folks have learned about impellers through an empty wallet.
Not at all!! As I stated at the outset, I know nothing!! So all the knowledge I can gain from here is greatly appreciated. Honestly, it seems the impeller is an inexpensive part to replace, so might as well get it done. Is there anything else you recommend?
 
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