1973 merc 200

Riverrat47274

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Hello all!i have a 1973 merc 200/20hp motor.the problem i have is starting it.have to pull starter rope 15 to 20 times before motor will fire up when motor is cool.but after that it will fire right up.or i have to squirt mixed fuel straight into carb and then it will fire up after 2 pull's.guy i bought from said he rebuilt carb and fuel pump along with new coils.compression is 80psi per cylinder.fuel line and primer bulb are good.almost seem's like it is not pulling enough gas to start up until you pull it 15 to 20 times.
 

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Re: 1973 merc 200

Your compression readings are rather low and could be what is causing the hard starting issue. The compression readings should be taken with the motor warmed up, both plugs removed, and throttle in the wide open position to get a true reading. if this is done and the readings are still below 100PSI and/or more that 10% difference, then the motor is due for a rebuild in most cases. Motors of that age seem to be quite cold blooded and this could be the case if the compression reading are close to the 100LBS. mark when test is done as stated. JMO
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I also think 80psi is low, but suspect it's the gauge or test method since it's cranking easy warm. The float level has to be set to spec perfectly, the choke plate has to close completely, along with a clean carb and proper low speed tuning. Those motors are notorious for being hard to start cold unless they are in perfect tune. The primer bulb should be firm before attempting to start it as well. I believe over time the cable on the cable operated chokes get stretched or whatever, and not close the choke totally. Try getting a friend to actually pull on the choke knob while you start it, or just pull out the knob and look at the plate in the carb throat. If there's a difference in the choke plate position when you pull the choke knob and hold the knob out, and when you pull the knob and release it, that could be part of your problem. I think there's even a plastic gauge included in the float kit for setting the float at the exact proper height. My father's best '72 merc 20hp liked a pull through with the choke on, then push in the choke and it would crank on the next pull. BTW, I don't think the throttle position or the temp. will affect your compression test much.
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little.boat

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Yes throttle position and temp will effect compression. Especially tempature.
 

tomhath

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The primer bulb gets and stays firm after a few pumps? I had a problem with the fuel pump gasket on mine, air leak didn't stop the flow of fuel but it didn't get to the carb as well as it should have. Might just be taking a long time for the carb bowl to fill. Give it a couple of minutes after pumping it up before you start pulling on the starter, and open the throttle up pretty far when you have it choked so it can pull fuel.
 

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Re: 1973 merc 200

Thanks for all the info guy's.this is my first mercury motor,so im not to familiar with them but idle seems to be kinda high compaired to other motors i've had.
 

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The idle should be at 600 to 700 RPM with the motor in FWD. gear with the motor warmed up to operating temp. It will idle higher when in neutral as there is no load on the motor. The idle has to also be set with the motor in a test tank, or in the water, and can not be done correctly on muffs. JMO
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I agree, 80 psi is low
 

Riverrat47274

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Motor runs great.just kinda hard to start.will do more testing once it warm's up some.hate to put in water right now.afraid of getting water in lower unit and freezing and end up busting something.thanks!!
 

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+1 on checking the choke. Make sure it is closed completely when you pull the knob, and that it stays there when you rope it over.
 

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Motor runs great.just kinda hard to start.will do more testing once it warm's up some.hate to put in water right now.afraid of getting water in lower unit and freezing and end up busting something.thanks!!

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Riverrat47274

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Re: 1973 merc 200

Well,was going to do more testing but starter rope broke.have one ordered and then will test.
 

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You might check the recoil spring, sometimes when the rope breaks, the spring will break as well when everything suddenly goes all the way back in. That way when your rope arrives, you won't have to wait on a spring. I hope you'll check compression warm and cold, with throttle position open or closed. I think you'll find that throttle position will have absolutely no affect on compression, and temp. will have only a little. I've had one of those 20hp mercs myself, and they are nice motors when the drive shafts are in good shape and the lower unit seals well.
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Riverrat47274

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Re: 1973 merc 200

Checked spring,still intact.no noticable leaks or anything from lower unit.but was going to replace lower unit fluid and fill screw is too tight.dont want to strip head of bolt.anybody have a good way of breaking this bolt loose.looks like previous owner had issues too.some marring on head of bolt.
 

Riverrat47274

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Got new pull start rope in today and got installed.also bought seloc manual.redone compression check and got 115psi per cylinder.motor still needs help to get started with squirting fuel into carb.ran motor for awhile and disconnected fuel line to run fuel out.i noticed motor died with in about a minute.other motors ive had would take about 3-4 minutes.could the starting issue be that the float is not set right and not letting enough fuel into carb?motor does run good with out any bogging down and idles good.
 

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Re: 1973 merc 200

Checked spring,still intact.no noticable leaks or anything from lower unit.but was going to replace lower unit fluid and fill screw is too tight.dont want to strip head of bolt.anybody have a good way of breaking this bolt loose.looks like previous owner had issues too.some marring on head of bolt.

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jbjennings

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Got new pull start rope in today and got installed.also bought seloc manual.redone compression check and got 115psi per cylinder.motor still needs help to get started with squirting fuel into carb.ran motor for awhile and disconnected fuel line to run fuel out.i noticed motor died with in about a minute.other motors ive had would take about 3-4 minutes.could the starting issue be that the float is not set right and not letting enough fuel into carb?motor does run good with out any bogging down and idles good.

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Riverrat47274

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Re: 1973 merc 200

Checked choke and primer bulb,all good there.may have to do carb rebuild.motor was only used about 3 times in the past 2 years by previous owner.
 
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