1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

nitrohydro2000

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I have an 200 cross flow that boggs badly on the water. It will run like heck on the top end. When I try to launch it boggs bad and after on plane at mid trottle it has a knocking sound. If i gun it full trottle the nock goes away and it runs fine. Even loading on the trailer is diffucult too much gas and it dies. It will not pull over 2500 rpm with the boat on the trailer. The motor is on an 18' nitro fish and ski with an 25p 4-blade prop.
 

rabidfish

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Re: 1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

OUCH !<br /><br />Better have a look at the pistons/cylinders. You have compression?
 

Cricket Too

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Re: 1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

Sounds like you may have a timing problem causing you to bog out of the hole and pre-ignition and detonation are causing your knocking. This will absolutely kill an engine. Check the timing or have it checked. You might want to decarb a couple of times and see if you can get that compression a little higher (after the first problem is fixed), at least they are all pretty close to each other as is.
 

nitrohydro2000

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Re: 1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

What exactly do you mean by decarb? I assume checking compression without the carbs on the motor.<br /><br />I have tried checking the timming but can't get it rev high enough to check at full trottle. It will only pull about 2500-2800. Every now and then it will jump to 3500 or so, while on the trailer. But on open water after It planes out it will pull that 25p prop 5800 or so.<br /><br />Thanks for the advise.
 

Salty Sal

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Re: 1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

decarbing means removing carbon buildup in and on cylinders/walls. Done with products such as Seafoam,<br />or OMC Engine Tuner
 

rabidfish

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Re: 1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

My guess is it's wore out. 90psi isn't much on a crossflow. The knocking is probably piston "slap".<br /><br />What does it idle in nuetral?/in gear? Most folks don't realize idle quality is the first to go... WOT is the last...<br /><br />The reason it dies when you hit the trailer is (probably) all the puddled fuel, laying in the block finally gets passed to the combustion chamber. It floods... especially if your idle reliefs are now under water. <br /><br />A good tight piston/cylinder wall fit will keep the fuel moving inside the crancase properly.
 

walleyehed

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Re: 1978 Cross Flow 200 bogging

90lbs is "just fine" on a crossflow V6....this isn't a 35 2-banger. This would be like 100lbs on a V4. As long as they're all fairly close, it shouldn't be the problem.<br />Timing may be an issue I wouldn't over-look...at WOT, it may be loud enough (engine) you can't hear the knock.<br />25P 4-blade may be too much for that 2.5L on an 18ft'r, although it may have nothin to do with your problems, "unless" you've been lugging with that prop, like under 5500 RPM. Bypass valve for extra water flow open at or above plane speed for extra water because the T-stats can't keep up along as for keeping a constant temp, so T-stats could be possible problem at low RPM, and then again, so could idle circuit in fuel system.<br />As mentioned above, have a look at the plugs-take them all out....turn flywheel by hand (clock-wise) and look into each plug-hole with a flashlight and verify piston tops are ok. You can roll the piston on down and see some of the cyl. wall too, that may tell you something if you see alot of verticle streaking.<br />You can set the timing static, but it must be set about 3 degs below Max using that method.
 
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