1984 125hp force Chrysler outboard help

[BoatNewbies]

Hello professional boaters of the world,
I have recently come into a trade deal before the winter last year involving my motorcycle and this guys boat.

I definitely thought it was worth it as I didnt have much into the bike and could use the boat or retrade it for higher value

I'm at the using the boat now that it's nice out. I took the boat directly to the lake and even bought a $65 10 day pass to take the boat out and to me and my friends surprise it never started.
we weren't able to test everything as we didnt have our tools but now that were home we can put a huge tub underneath the prop and try to start it at home where we can test stuff out further

Any advice?

Have also attached photos that appear to have some gas or oil leaking from the bottom of the outboard. Not sure. Any help is appreciated

 

[jerryjerry05]

The gas/oil is normal.
It runs through the motor as you try to start it.
then runs out through the cracks and holes.

In the picture, the side of the drive, there is a slotted screw.
Do NOT EVER undo that screw.
The pain and misery you'll cause yourself will be HUGE!!!
It's a pivot pin and holds the shift linkage in place.

That said: now do a compression test.
Then a spark test.
Those two OK?
Then the fuel system, check for water in the lines?
Unhook at the fuel pump and try squeezing the ball.
Pump it into a glass jar.

It's what year and kind of boat?
Some have a kill switch on the dash, some don't have one.

I'm guessing it's turning over from the gas going down the leg.

Do those tests and let us know??

 

[BoatNewbies]

Thanks for the response Jerry. Upon trying further tests I have discovered that I'm not getting much spark. I have tried locating the fuse box to see if perhaps I have blown a fuse but I cannot locate that either. My owners manual says it's under the driver side panels but not there. Not sure where else it could be I have scoped out this entire freaking boat. It's an 84 bayliner 1900 capri. Could never locate the kill switch so I do not believe it has one. But the boat does not start out of neutral which make some believe that is working properly. Then again we are newbies. Still trying as I type

 

[redfury]

Fuses on the boat aren't going to affect the engine. The engine on any outboard boat is going to be electrically independent. Power, ground, wiring harness to the ignition switch/kill switch. Weak spark could be bad coils. Check the ohms between the spark plug lead and ground on each coil.

 

[Nordin]

As you have no spark and the thread says 1984 Force Chrysler 125Hp we need to know which ignition system the engine has.
Model number of the engine and/or pics from under the hood and we can start to help you.

As Chrysler went out of the OB business in 1983-84 and US Marine took over there can be Motorola I Magna Power CD ignition with distributor or Prestolite CD ignition.
I think it has the Prestolite system, but need to be sure because they are two complete different systems.

The Magna Power I is a battery feed CD system and need 12VDC from a battery to work.
The Prestolite is a magneto self energize CD system that not need battery power to work.

 

[BoatNewbies]

Will have to try again tomorrow. We’re making progress and learning a lot but still cannot get it to turn. It appears that our starter is only receiving 5ish volts when it runs off 12V. Perhaps my carbs are flooding because its not having enough power to suck the gas/spark the motor up? I had someone close tell me I needed a carb kit but I’m not exactly sure.

The exact model on the motor is 1258X4A so this would make it the manga powered correct?

I really appreciate everyone’s responses. I’m very inexperienced but willing to learn, my buddy helping me is a certified forklift tech that knows his way around some motors but not quite like this. We’re trying our best and hopefully with the help of you all we can get this boat going to finally enjoy the summer

 

[jerryjerry05]

Does the cover say Force or Chrysler?
Does it have a distributer?
Post pics of the cover and motor with the cover off.

Red- some were routed through the fuse box found under the dash, my 88 Bayliner did.

If??? it's not turning over???
Start at the battery, load test, then check the battery cable and the connections.
The cable, any swelling or weak spots?
Solenoid, does it click when the key's activated? Test light and test the main posts
when the key's activated.
Test light at the starter, does it light when the key's activated?
Starter: clean it out, could have years of dirt built up??
Try taking the plugs out, jump the solenoid and see if it turns over then?
Yes, then the compression might be off on one or more cyl.
Still not turning over? drop the lower unit, then try again.

 

[BoatNewbies]

Here are some pics of the boat with the cover off and on. The cover says force but the name plate says Chrysler OB.

Hopefully we will be able to test it out today after work. Praying its something simple =]

Will update with new results soon !

 

[Jiggz]

The pics indicate it's a Force with Prestolite ignition. Try jumpering the battery for more power and the starter should crank it over really good. if not, then the starter needs some cleaning. Try that first and post back. You can also post a video of the starter cranking over just to see if it's cranking fast enough.

If it is, then you will need to check for sparks on all cylinders. If there's no spark on all cylinders check the Safety Lanyard switch. Or if you know what you're doing disconnect the shut down white wire off the engine terminal.

 

[Tassie 1]

Did they have a safety lanyard switch?

we've had 9 or 10 over the yrs up to 120 and have never seen one on a chrysler....but...

to boatnewbies... l really don't like to say this but sometimes these Chryslers have been put away for years without being used,

someone comes along and buys it and the motor runs great for around 6 trips or so then the motor has a problem...generally in the ignition system,

to me, it seems like a power spike issue, for want of a better explanation

 

[jerryjerry05]

Yup Prestolite with the newer, updated packs and coils.
The 84 probably didn't have a kill switch.
Is it turning at all?

 

[BoatNewbies]

Thank you all for your responses. We did not get to try last night unfortunately work had us tied down. Hoping today we can give it another shot. I did get the boat from an honest looking guy last year. He got a motorcycle that didnt start at the moment but I knew would. He promised me the boat ran that same year but then again its word for word. I know he got that bike started as all it needed was a jump. Unfortunately I’m working towards getting this going but you may have been right Tessie, he bought from a dealer and used it that summer. Who knows how long it was sitting, something went wrong and he offloaded it to me but then again he was moving and didnt want to haul it so who knows which one it was. The boat appears to be in great condition and if we can just get the motor to work then Ive got me a a nice functioning boat

I will hopefully respond with positive results a little later today. Everything seems okay we just aren’t getting any spark. I have been sending my tech everything you guys type to kind of catch him up where we stand. We both wanna get a good use out of it and appreciate every single one of your responses

Not sure if it has a lanyard kill switch. The boat is pretty ancient =s We found the fuse breaker and it seems like it was all running off 1 20amp. Replaced that and that just fixed my bilge pump which at least if all fails we wont go under haha

 

[jerryjerry05]

Good attitude!! That helps
Do the tests and post the results.