1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

dperci1

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Just had the hub in the prop replaced thinking that was the problem but my prop still isnt moving unless i bring my motor up then it moves a little bit can anybody out there help me out it wont move in reverse either
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

What was the problem before hub replacement. Something is missing here. More INFO.
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Take the cowling off and see if the shift linkage moves when you move the shifter from forward to reverse.

Might even drain the gear lube out of the lower unit and see what's on the magnet of the drain plug.

Going to move this over to the Mercury OB forum, you obviously don't have a prop problem.
 

dperci1

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

there was nothing on the magnet i have the linkadge and everything hooked up right. the thing is the more throttle i give it my prop spins and as i raise the motor the faster the prop spins i shouldnt say faster the more the prop spins
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Is this in the water or on a flusher ??
 

Mi duckdown

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Did you change the water impellar, and NOW you are having problems?
 

dperci1

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

no didnt change the impellar and yes this is in the river and tried on Rabbit ears i did notice a rubber washer was broke in half but not sure wear it came from
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

With the engine off and in forward or reverse, can you turn the prop by hand? Yes or No?
 

dperci1

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

no you cant turn prop when in gear forward or reverse but you can in neutral
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

its not suposto move while its in gear unless to motor is driving it. The drive gears are engaged.
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Is this a new boat and motor to you?
Oldman570
 

dperci1

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

ive owned it for a year it ran fine untill i backed it off of the trailer and then it would run when it was low throttle but when i would give it more throttle it would wine out thats when i thought it was the hub in the prop and replaced it could it be the clutch
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Have you tried a different prop?
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Though far from an expert, this is starting to sound like a stripped pinion gear or more so the drive shaft spline into the pinion.
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

Have you tried disconnecting the cables and shifting it by hand while it is idling?
If the motor is in gear and not running the prop will turn one way with a ratcheting sound and not turn the other way.
It will ratchet opposite directions in each gear.
 

dperci1

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

its raining here today aned i took lower unit off to check if there was anything broke or gears stripped out yesterday
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

its not suposto move while its in gear unless to motor is driving it. The drive gears are engaged.

In F gear, yes for CCW rotation, but for CW rotation the overrun clutch allows it to turn and you hear the clutch ticking as you do it. In R yes it is locked to the crankshaft.
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

What does it mean "when you bring the motor up". What gear are you in when you say it doesn't turn? What about the opposite gear; does it turn then? You said the prop won't turn but didn't mention the prop shaft. Does it turn?
Mark
 

dperci1

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

raising the trim all the way up. Forward gear spins with compression not sure about reverse. yes i mean the prop shaft no the prop shaft does not turn in forward
 

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Re: 1985 50 hp merc will not turn the prop

raising the trim all the way up. Forward gear spins with compression not sure about reverse. yes i mean the prop shaft no the prop shaft does not turn in forward

Okaye the shifter works like this. The shift lever on the remote control is connected to an interconnect cable, the other end of which is connected to the engine. The outer part of the cable has a brass threaded shaft with a brass barrel on it that is also threaded and can run up and down the threads. This is how you mate the cable to the engine.

The center cable has a plastic (usually) adapter with a hole in the end and it fits the shifter post on the engine linkage. Control is accomplished by moving the engines shifter arm, hence shifting rod that goes down to the lower unit, back and forth to cycle through the 3 gears.

On the lower end of the rod is a splined shaft. It fits into the top of the shift cam which is at the very front of the LU inline with the prop shaft. The cam rotates through 3 positions and each has a different detent. Inserted into the detents is a thing called a cam follower that does just that...follows the detents in the cam and as a result has 3 different fore-aft positions.

At the rear of the cam follower and associated parts is a thing called a clutch dog. The dog is a barrel with gears cut on the front and cogs on the rear. It is locked to the prop shaft. In N it sits between the F and R gears, touching neither, hence neutral.

The drive shaft has a pinion gear on the end of it and this pinion is in constant contact with the F and R gears which spin as long as the engine crankshaft is rotating.

To shift the engine, the clutch dog is moved forward or aft by the pressure applied to it by the change in height of the cams in the shifter cam. For F gear the dog (spring loaded) moves forward and it's gears mesh with the F gears. As the cam is moved to the next position (N) it puts pressure on the dog and it moves aft slightly, disengaging with the F gears. Drive shaft turns but prop shaft doesn't.

As the cam is rotated to the final position (R) the cam is at it's highest point and exerts maximum pressure on the clutch dog pushing it to the rear and into the R gear.

That's the way it works. Now that you know, just answer the question: What isn't doing what it's supposed to do.

The first place to look is linkage between the remote cable and the shift arm in the engine. Can the remote cable position the arm in the FNR positions or is it too short on the F end and can't quite push the arm far enough to engage. If not take it off and adjust it and I have that process sitting around from the last couple of days....look at my tweets in my personal area and look for it.

Mark
 
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