1985 Ebbtide Montego project

Laker6

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The old Ebbtide needs some work. Today I pulled the outboard, popped the cap, and removed most of the deck. I will be going in search of tools tomorow to remove stringers, foam and transom. I was thinking about a pneumatic cut-off saw or grinder. Would a small Dremell multi tool be better?(less chance of cutting something I dont want to:facepalm:) Also, when working inside the boat, with no stringers or foam, should I use plywood to distribute my weight? Can the hull support 200+ Lbs?


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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

hi again laker.

ok....first off.......forum etiquette.

post a pic of your boat in a thread about your rebuild....then post all your questions under one thread....it is so much easier to follow the progress of your build as well as your level of profeciency....it will grow greatly in a short time.

now.....as far as tools......you need a sawz all....a circ saw......an electric chain saw helps.....and most inportant...a 4 inch angle grinder with a rubber backing pad and 24 grit discs.

please read this about safety equipment.....it is more important than the rest of the tools

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=235651

as well......in the how to's section at the top of the forum
there is a link to frisco boaters vids..good basic info...
the link in my sig......is the most detailed glassing info in the site.....and will go into every circumstance you will get into.....but its a huge read
 

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

oh....as far as the weight on the hull.......you should be fine.....but if you are worried....then just throw down some chunks of plywood
 

Laker6

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

[No work done on the boat today, but I did manage to find my camera cable to up-load some pictures.100_2337.jpg100_2336.jpg

Most of the deck is out. I was thinking of expanding the storage area to the rear, to store fishing poles. 100_2359.jpg

I took some core samples, lower 1/4 inch of foam is wet. But by the look of this stringer all will need replacement.100_2358.jpg

Transom with some cracks and rot. Drain tubes were broken or missing.100_2357.jpg

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Laker6

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

How do I fix this??? When removing the transom, the lower corner craked, about 9" long. Can I glass up the back before the transom is replaced? Also what is my best option on the hull, it has 15 or so small dings that were filled with gelcoat repair, not the best color match. But mainly, 50 1/4"bulbbles in the gelcoat , some that have poped, on side of gunwall. I'm thinking gelcoat entire boat.


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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

How do I fix this??? When removing the transom, the lower corner craked, about 9" long. Can I glass up the back before the transom is replaced? Also what is my best option on the hull, it has 15 or so small dings that were filled with gelcoat repair, not the best color match. But mainly, 50 1/4"bulbbles in the gelcoat , some that have poped, on side of gunwall. I'm thinking gelcoat entire boat.


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WOW! How did that happen? Were you Prying in the wood with something. That is a major break in the glass structure
 

Laker6

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

Yes I was. I did'nt know that the floor came up 1" above the lower edge of the transom. Can it be saved??
 

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

Anything can be fixed, but... is it worth it??? Your other picture shows some Bad Boat Pox on the Fiberglass, Those bumps in the gel coat will all have to be ground down and repaired. You might want to step back and consider your options. This Girls might be ready for retirement. If you have a Great sentimental attachment and don't mind the time and the dollars then we can get you through the restore but it will be some work and bucks.
 

Laker6

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

I'd like to see her fixed, any guess on $$, just hull repair?(17.5'). What is the cause of boat pox and will they get worse?
 

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

... What is the cause of boat pox and will they get worse?

I hope it isn't contagious! I saw that pic and thought it looked like water droplets. I'd like to know how they formed.

Sorry to see the rip you had with pulling out the transom. I was prying on mine with a alot of force, glad I didn't have that happen.

Like WoG says, it can be fixed and the folks here can help you get it on the mend.

Best of luck.
 

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Re: 1985 Ebbtide Montego project

Sooo, I guess you must have some sentimental attachment to the boat????
Water being absorbed through the gelcoat and fiberglass laminates in the hull causes blisters (Boat Pox). Gelcoat is not impervious to water, it will over time allow water to be absorbed through the gelcoat. The water absorbed reacts with the resins, which build up residues and finally raise blisters by increased pressure on voids between the laminate and the gelcoat when it was layed up at the factory. This is what you see on the hull. It occurs when boats are left in the water for long periods of time and happens more frequently in fresh water. Your first step is to open up the blisters to allow them to "bleed" the excess water. I'd recommend a Dremmel for this. Take a pocket knife or a sharp chisel to start the opening of each of the blisters and weeping areas and then grind down to solid laminate. Be warned they can Stink like the dickens. Once all the blisters have been ground to solid laminate and the entire void exposed, allow the hull to dry for as long as possible. This may require a month or two or more. You can help speed this up using a heat gun but don't ove do it and get the area to hot. Fans and heat lamps help too. Depending on how long they've been there will determine how long it take em to dry.
A good technique to test the hull for dryness is to tape a clear plastic sheet, about one foot by one foot, over the clean hull surface. Make sure all the edges are sealed with tape and adhere to the hull. After 24 hours, check to see if there is any condensation under the plastic. If not, you're good to go. Once everything is dry, you can grind and feather, lay some CSM and do the standard Gelcoat repair.

As for the major damage you will have to grind back the glass 6 " along the crack on both sides and feather it down to a razors edge in the center both inside and outside of the boat. I'd also recommend attempting to compress the crack back into place a bit. You will then lay alternating patches of CSM and 1708 Biaxial Cloth to build it back up to its original thicknes. Being on the Edge of the hull complicates it some because it has to be fair on the bottom or it can cause issues with the performance of the boat.

As EZ and I both stated, it really might be time to look for another boat.
 
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