1986 Merc "Black Max" 200 - Question about "warning beeper"

iamkarl

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I have a '86 black max with 50~60 hours on it. The motor has been/does work great. My question comes with the little warning "beeper" for the oil/temp. Used to be that when you turned the key to "run" the thing beeped a few times, but now it doesn't beep anymore. The last time I took it out I noticed it for the first(?) time, but it still worked fine. I ran all day on it without any problems and am now trying to find out what is going on. I checked the wiring, connections, and beeper and all is well. I am wondering if anyone can explain what might be going on? The only other piece of information that might be of value is that there was a problem in the electric for awhile from a device that was shorting power to ground in trace amounts.... But I don't think that would hurt it?<br /><br />Also, if someone could explain how the "beeper" circuit works? On this engine, there is all of the normal wires to the "fuel inj warning mod" (which consists of two sensor wires to the fuel pump, two sensor wires (one to the unit, one to neutral) for the oil reservoir, one black from the module to neutral, one purple to the module that gets power once the key goes to "run", green wire from switchbox, and offbrownish color going back to the wiring loom.<br /><br />What confuses me is the offbrownish wire. It goes from the module, to a termination point on the engine, to the loom. Also on that termination point, it connects to a black wire which makes its way right underneath the top spark plug on the right hand side fastened behind a little plate (when looking from behind the engine). This is where it confuses me... What does that circuit (The offbrownish that connects to the beeper and that "block-wire") do? How the manufacturer hooked up the beeper behind the dash originally was that the brown wire from the engine was on the "-" side of the beeper and the "+" side was connected to the positive power terminal on the dashes electric distro plate. This must mean that that "fuel inj warning mod" box has a relay or the like in it which connects the brown wire to neutral.<br /><br />That doesn't really make sense; I would have expected the box to supply voltage to the beeper, which would have meant it was pumping its voltage to the dashes voltage. But the beeper worked (and still does if taken out and jumped to the batter terminals), so it couldn't be that way.... could it?<br /><br /><br />Any help you guys could provide would be very greatly appreciated - I am mechanically and electrically very proficient, but haven't had to work on an outboard before.<br /><br />Karl P
 

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Re: 1986 Merc "Black Max" 200 - Question about "warning beeper&qu

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I've got the same motor and I'm a bit confused on your terminology but I think we can get through this. First off, you don't have any wires going to the fuel pump. The bl/wht wires go to the motion sensor on the oil pump. The bl/blk wires go to the float assembly in the reserve oil tank and the brown wire goes to the temp. sensor on the head. <br />The warning module is nothing more than a relay switch. Should any of the switch become open the relay in the module closes and sounds the warning buzzer. From the sounds of it you've lost your warning module
 

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Sorry about that, I meant the motion sensor on the oil pump. So the temp sensor is connected to the same wire as the warning buzzer? How does that work? and is it true that the sensor just "connects" (via a relay) the offbrown wire to neutral?<br /><br />Karl P
 

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Yes the off-brown wire will sound the beeper by driving it to ground but when an oil fault occurs the module pulses it (beep beep beep) instead of the constant beep of the overheat sensor. A sign of a dead or intermitent module is no beep when the key is turned on. Options: replace inj. module or do what I did, scrap injection and go pre-mix 50:1 (I actually use Amsoil 100:1 Sabre outboard oil). Your plastic gear on the crank that drives the inj. pump is getting old anyway and when that fails, icky! This option is a controversy on the forum here, not because it doesn't work but many have good luck w/ inj. and never worry about forgeting the oil!
 

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Well, I am not worried about forgeting the oil at all, I am worried about the oil pump however, if its a part that can go bad. What is needed for a "tune-up" of the oil pump system? The way i use and fill my boat and other toys, I really don't want to go premix if i can help it.<br /><br />With that being said, do you know of a place I can sell a few extra parts for my boat i have collected? (tilt/trim motor, cylinders, etc.... some steering stuff... etc all in good working condition) If its against the board policy or something to give out this info I am sorry....<br /><br />Thanks for your help!<br /><br />Karl P
 

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Karl,<br /><br />The Merc oil injection system is the most reliable of all of the outboards. So much so that Suzuki changed their's to match it, around 1996 I think. <br /><br />The warning module monitors the engine speed, via the green lead from one of the ignition coils/switch box and checks it against the pulse signal from the oil pump motion sensor. If there is any discrepency it'll beep the warning beeper. It also monitors the float switch in the oil tank in the engine and will also fire the beeper, but with a different beep period. The heat sensor will fire the beep as a continuous 'beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep'. When power, via the purple lead, is first applied to the module it will chirp the beeper with the signal you don't hear anymore to indicate that it has passed the self test. If I were you, I'd be checking the wires and if they're ok, replacing the module.<br /><br />Chris...........
 

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Further to the above, this is the procedure, from the Merc manual.<br /><br />
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What confuses me is the offbrownish wire. It goes from the module, to a termination point on the engine, to the loom. Also on that termination point, it connects to a black wire which makes its way right underneath the top spark plug on the right hand side fastened behind a little plate (when looking from behind the engine).
That black wire is your Overheat Sensor (not the temp. sensor) also known as the Temperature Switch which will ground out when above 240F and trip the "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep". Just to clear things up...<br /><br />If you have a temperature sender (which would be under the top spark plug on the other side) that has nothing to do with the alarm. That tan/blue wire (as they are normally) goes directly to the temp guage... <br /><br />But the wire from the terminal to the horn is tan I believe...(no blue stripe on it)
 
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