1994 24' Boston Whaler steering issue

Augoose

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All,
I'm helping out on a center console with steering issues and I'm looking for assistance. The issue is that there is no steering response from the dual Mercury 150's when we turn the wheel at the helm.

Because the boat has been sitting for about 2 years (indoors) we decided that the Sea Star Outboard Hydraulic Steering Cylinder might be frozen or some other mechanical interference was causing the lack of steering. After removing the cylinder completely along with the hoses, the cylinder operates normally as does the rest of the steering linkage. If we keep either bleed screw open on the cylinder, you can physically push the engines from port to starboard. As soon as we close the bleed screw it locks down and we can no longer push the engines side to side.

We then inspected the Sea Star / Teleflex 1.7 Tilt helm, HH5741 for any obvious signs. There seemed to be no leaks that we could find and the fluid level seemed to be full.

We then tried to bleed the system of any air and had one person turn the wheel to starboard as the bleed screws on the cylinder were opened - fluid and spurts of air shot out of both bleed screws at either end of the cylinder when turning to starboard. I don't recall what happened when the wheel was turned to port during this part of the test.

The person turning the wheel noticed that there was a heavy amount of resistance when turning to port (engines were already positioned at full turn to port) and the wheel seemed to "skip" between heavy resistance to light resistance and then back again to heavy, but only when turning to port. When turning to starboard, the engines never moved and there was little to no resistance in the wheel and would turn indefinitely with again no response from the engines.

We drained quite a bit of the fluid which was pretty dark and replaced it by pouring it into the intake at the top of the helm. After filling it up until it would take no more, we bled the system by releasing the bleed screws and turning the wheel to port. After filling and bleeding several times, the helm wouldn't take any more fluid but the engines still didn't turn.

How does the system work? Is pressure created by the turning wheel force fluid into one side of the cylinder, thereby forcing the cylinder to move the engines or is there a separate pump that I haven't found?
Thanks all
 

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Re: 1994 24' Boston Whaler steering issue

Look at the teleflex web site and contact the customer support........ nice people ;)
 

Augoose

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Re: 1994 24' Boston Whaler steering issue

Look at the teleflex web site and contact the customer support........ nice people ;)

I did contact them and you are exactly right a guy named Marc was extremely nice and the response was fast. However, the response was that the helm needed to be replaced and I would like to try a rebuild on it instead - nothing to lose anyway.
He pointed me in the right direction of a seal kit but I'm still looking for a rebuild kit and instructions - maybe the seal kit is all I need?

On the teleflex website I did find the proper instructions for bleeding the system so its very possible that since we were shooting from the hip on our bleed sequence that there is still air in the line. We plan on getting back out there in the next few days so we'll see how it goes.
In the meantime I'm hoping someone has tinkered with these things before and can lend some experience!

Thanks!
 

Augoose

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Re: 1994 24' Boston Whaler steering issue

Alright- think I've got it fixed. We tore into the helm today and took it completely down. During dissasembly we discovered that one of the check valves was frozen solid, thereby failing to properly route the flow of the hydraulic fluid. We got it freed up and then put everything back together for a bench test where we received proper alternating pressure/suction from the hose fittings when turning the wheel clockwise/counter clockwise. Based on the bench test I think we are functional now and will re-install tomorrow along with a purge of the lines.

Marc with teleflex was a great assistance as well- very quick responses and clearly explained how the system worked.
 
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