1996 Johnson 225 with dual Binnacle control, lack reverse throttle range

Lt-Nellie

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I took the binnacle off to remount on to a new console and now, I do not have any throttle range on reverse when in gear. However, when I press the shift disengage button, reverse has full range of travel. Please let me know what I did incorrectly. Thanks for your time.
 

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Lt-Nellie

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Cables reversed ???
don't think so.. I discounted the cable at the motor end of the other motor just to see if motor has anything to do with this. Both control at the binnacle behaves the same. Full range when gear button depressed. Something at the binnacle is causing the throttle not advancing when in reverse gear. Meanwhile, forward throttle works fine.
 
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Look at your cable routing, you are binding the shift cable at the helm with your mounting. So stick your head underneath the helm and see if your shift linkage is hitting the steering cable or other helm bits
 

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Are you sure the reverse gear is fully engaged ?
Yes, the prop spins the boat goes backward, just can't advance the throttle. With the other side disconnected at the motor end, the control acts the same when gear into reverse. With the motor not running, I put the gear in reverse and try to turn the prop and if feel solid also.
 

racerone

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Most control boxes limit the amount of throttle in reverse.----Time to look and see what changed when you took control off and remounted it.
 

Lt-Nellie

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Look at your cable routing, you are binding the shift cable at the helm with your mounting. So stick your head underneath the helm and see if your shift linkage is hitting the steering cable or other helm bits
Just checked, cable path is smooth.
 

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Your limited to your throttle adjustment in reverse.

When I replaced my cables a while back I had more travel than throttle in forward. Reverse throttle bottomed out just barely above idle

Don’t remember exactly what I did but it was a throttle cable adjustment.
 

Lt-Nellie

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Your limited to your throttle adjustment in reverse.

When I replaced my cables a while back I had more travel than throttle in forward. Reverse throttle bottomed out just barely above idle

Don’t remember exactly what I did but it was a throttle cable adjustment.
When that happen to you, did the idle change? In my case, the motor idle at the correct RPM. It is just reverse barely above idle. The interesting part is that when I push in the gear bypass, I have full range of throttle on reverse.
 

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When that happen to you, did the idle change? In my case, the motor idle at the correct RPM.
Throttle cable is adjusted with the throttle linkage sitting on the idle stop. Adjustment will not affect idle unless the cable is too tight (short), and the throttle isn’t returning to the idle stop.
It is just reverse barely above idle. The interesting part is that when I push in the gear bypass, I have full range of throttle on reverse.
The bypass is a cam that combine the open/close action of the throttle with the forward and backwards action of the shifter.

Neither not operate correctly unless both shift and throttle cables are adjusted per the book.
 

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Throttle cable is adjusted with the throttle linkage sitting on the idle stop. Adjustment will not affect idle unless the cable is too tight (short), and the throttle isn’t returning to the idle stop.

The bypass is a cam that combine the open/close action of the throttle with the forward and backwards action of the shifter.

Neither not operate correctly unless both shift and throttle cables are adjusted per the book.
Thanks, I will re-read the book and adjust.
 
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