2003 Mercruiser 350 Mag MPI - No start

TNVol

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Serial No. 0M618016

Current issue
Engine started as normal. Ran for about two seconds then shut off (like the key had been turned off). Checked kill switch. It is OK. Still will not start. Engine does turn over. If cranked for several (5+) seconds backfires occasionally. Pulled ignition coil wire from distributor cap and observed arc from coil wire to engine block screw while cranking. Removed distributor cap and inspected cap and rotor. Both looked good (neither was very old). Rotor did have a lot of rotational and vertical slack. Gear at bottom of distributor is worn. Lined up rotor at number 1. Checked that mark on crank aligned with notch on engine bracket. Pulled distributor. Couldn’t get old gear off. Replaced entire distributor (See note at end on past distributor finding). No change when trying to start. Didn’t really expect this to work but had been meaning to get rid of the rotor slop for a while. Symptoms sounded like maybe IAC. Replaced IAC. IAC muffler was missing from throttle body. Put in a new one. No change when trying to start. I should note that the boat sounds three short double beeps after I turn the ignition switch OFF. It has been doing that since I bought it five years ago so I thought that was normal.

Recent background
When returning from a pretty long outing a couple of weeks prior while in a no-wake zone, I got two beeps every minute until the engine was shut off. All gauges looked good so I kept going to the dock. Checked oil level and lube monitor. Everything seemed good and alarm didn’t repeat so I forgot about it.

Distributor oddity
Even though this is an eight cylinder engine, it has a six cylinder distributor. A couple of years ago when trying to get rid of a persistent misfire, I noticed the above mentioned slop in the distributor rotor. Ordered a distributor and replaced it. Boat would start but ran horrible and smelled of unburnt fuel. Pulled the new distributor and carefully compared it to the old one and noticed that the rotor pointer was off by about 90degrees when referenced to the “windows” in the rotor mounting surface. The old distributor was an obvious replacement and had a non-adjustable hold down clamp firmly attached. When I compared it carefully to pictures online, it matched the six cylinder part. This leads me to believe that a previous owner had the distributor replaced and that the Engine Controller had been reprogrammed to work with the six cylinder part. Regardless, I modified the hold down clamp to allow rotation of the distributor and put the old distributor back in. Then I rotated the distributor (figuring that engine torque would take out the slop while it is running) to account for the rotational slop and it has run great until this recent event. Don’t think this is relevant but I’m trying to be thorough.
 

alldodge

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Even though this is an eight cylinder engine, it has a six cylinder distributor
I think you mean it has the body from a 6 correct? It does have a 8 cylinder cap?
When installing the distributor, number 1 must be at TDC and the rotor must point at the notch

HVS Distributor Timing.jpg
Having spark previous, have you check fuel pressure? Should be 43 psi at the rail

2 beeps a minute can be several things and need a scanner to find out what the problem is. Need Diacom software or a Techmate Pro both made by Rinda
 

Bt Doctur

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If you had a manual you would have seen how to install the dist. The computer takes care of the timing and there is no used adjustment
 

Stinnett21

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The three short double beeps when you turn the ignition off is your stereo head unit reminding you that you haven't ejected the face plate.
 

TNVol

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alldodge - Yes, I put an 8 cylinder cap on it. I will try to post some pictures with the rotor removed so you can see the difference.

Stinnet21 - Thanks for the beep info. That makes me feel better.

Bt Doctur - On the distributor- I realize the timing is controlled by the computer. The rotation of the distributor still allows for adjustment of the cam retard angle. If this is off the coil will fire at the correct time but the rotor may not be well aligned with the desired post. Misfires galore.
 

TNVol

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As near as I can tell the only difference between the 6 and 8 cylinder part #s is where the rotor mounting screw holes are tapped.
Part that was was installed and working in my boat on bottom. 8 Cylinder part # on top.8 Cyl.pngOld 6 Cyl Dist.png
 

alldodge

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The HVS dizzy has a "very small" spot where it will fire correctly. Original versions of the ECM it could be moved about an 1/8 either side if the motor was experiencing a misfire. There is a bulletin out for this and another of how to get it exact.

The dizzy also has a reluctor wheel (your pics) which the cam sensor (if connected) sends information to the ECM. The wheel being drilled differently tells me that that the info sent would be different
 
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