2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

[odiebeast1]

How well do you think a Crownline 206ls would do in 1-3 foot waves. It is about 400-500 pounds heavier than most boats its length, and does have the 8'6" beam. The potential sellers all say it will do fine.

 

[Bondo]

Re: 2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,....

In footers, you'll be fine....
In 3'ers, yer gonna get Beat up in any 20' boat...

 

[Thalasso]

Re: 2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

How well do you think a Crownline 206ls would do in 1-3 foot waves. It is about 400-500 pounds heavier than most boats its length, and does have the 8'6" beam. The potential sellers all say it will do fine.

If i see right, that boat is an open bow. You might sink it in three ft's if you should stuff the bow.

 

[viper1]

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Not sure if your talking fresh water or salt. But many boats it the 16-20 foot range do quite well in Lake Erie with open and close bows. I prefer closed and some have small bow covers made to close them off. 1-3 is the norm for Erie. My Erie Walleye boat is a 19 foot starcraft.

 

[odiebeast1]

Re: 2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

Thanks to all for your input. The boat will be used in Lake Erie, and does have a bow cover. Kind of a 'tweener' in my opinion. Will just have to be more 'weather conscience' than normal even if I go with this.

 

[airdvr1227]

Re: 2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

Not sure if your talking fresh water or salt. But many boats it the 16-20 foot range do quite well in Lake Erie with open and close bows. I prefer closed and some have small bow covers made to close them off. 1-3 is the norm for Erie. My Erie Walleye boat is a 19 foot starcraft.

A lot of boats do well on Lake Erie while they are under power. If you're out in the 3-4's and your engine dies you're going in the drink.

 

[DuckHunterJon]

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Two thoughts - first, you ask the question how will the boat do, but the better question is how will the captain do. Experience plays a huge role as the seas pick up.

Second, forget the bow cover being anything more than a splash guard. If you stuff the bow, the force of the water will do two things. First, it will collapse the cover quicker than scat. Second, if the cover does stay intact, the water will then rush up over the windshield, fill the cockpit, and quite possibly knock you over your seat. How do I know, I did this two summers ago with mine. I ended up on the rear casting platform before I knew what hit me. Fortunately, I had just installed the kill tether and was trying it out that day. Worked like a charm. My undies, however, needed major repair after the incident!

 

[Philster]

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90% of the people/boaters I've met don't know how to describe the typical seas they are concerned with.

On some days with a bit o' wind, a back tidal bay behind an island will get what is call "2-foot chop". Take a 19-20' bowrider into 2' chop when the wind is not very calm and she'll be ok at best. You might learn something about her. Maybe she will be slamming alot, and your speed must be kept down. Maybe you arm tires of playing with the throttle. Little bit of the day's fun has been taken by the weather/seas and made unpleasant.

Now, take most 24-26' deep V boats in 2' chop and you will never feel the hull slam, your fuel mileage and top speed will go up and you won't ever need to come off plane. Zoooooooooooom... all good.

When someone says "3-foot", it lacks the remaining information. 3' foot swells? rollers (could be the same as swells, maybe not)?, chop with caps.... 3' closely stacked?

It's not enough info. 4-6' seas could be harmless. I've been in seas where 50' boats have disappeared behind waves ('cause they were rollers) on the way out of the inlet. Felt fine in an 18' bow rider. 3' chop can be chaos.

So... what does 3' mean? Who knows... it lacks the necessary info to draw images of the waves/seas in one's head.

I've heard some people describe their boats as great in 2-3' "chop" and then mentioned they knew this because of how they handled some 'big wakes'. Ugh.

 

[Thalasso]

Re: 2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

90% of the people/boaters I've met don't know how to describe the typical seas they are concerned with.

On some days with a bit o' wind, a back tidal bay behind an island will get what is call "2-foot chop". Take a 19-20' bowrider into 2' chop when the wind is not very calm and she'll be ok at best. You might learn something about her. Maybe she will be slamming alot, and your speed must be kept down. Maybe you arm tires of playing with the throttle. Little bit of the day's fun has been taken by the weather/seas and made unpleasant.



Now, take most 24-26' deep V boats in 2' chop and you will never feel the hull slam, your fuel mileage and top speed will go up and you won't ever need to come off plane. Zoooooooooooom... all good.

When someone says "3-foot", it lacks the remain information. 3' foot swells? rollers (could be the same as swells, maybe not)?, chop with caps.... 3' closely stacked?

It's not enough info. 4-6' seas could be harmless. I've been in seas where 50' boats have disappeared behind waves on the way out of the inlet. Felt fine in an 18' bow rider. 3' chop can be chaos.

So... what does 3' mean? Who knows... it lacks the necessary info to draw images of the waves/seas in one's head.

I've heard some people describe their boats as great in 2-3' "chop" and then mentioned they knew this because of how they handled some 'big wakes'. Ugh.

In Lake Erie, they come closely stacked about every 3 sec. from diff. directions sometimes. No rollers

 

[tpenfield]

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In my local waters we get 1-3 ft chop on a daily basis. with any appreciable wind you get 2-4 ft chop.

and then there are the windy days and it is 4-5 ft. chop. . .

on the 3+ days, I see many 18-20 footers launch and head out of the harbor . . . about 1/2 hour later, I see them coming back.

So, 1-2 foot chop will probably be fine with a 20 foot boat. when you get more consitently 3 footers, you are probably done for the day.

 

[viper1]

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Well I'm in Ohio and boat almost completely Lake Erie. I've used both fiberglass and Aluminum boat 19 foot. Which is considered a proper boat by most. I know quite a few with an open bow with cover and have handled 5-6's up there no problem. I prefer a cuddy or closed bow like my Star-craft but have used both. I was out in 5-7's and never felt threatened.But it is rough. I try to come in when the water is over 3 foot. Not because of the boat but because any thing more even in a 24-26 is still rough to fish. So I go out in any where up to 3's and come back if it hits fours.More by personal choice. I always have 2 motors on Erie. No matter what boat you have if you can't keep bow into the waves you got big problems. A boat dead in the water is as good as sunk in large waves.
Now What I say has a lot to do with the captain also. A good one can keep a boat afloat in large waves with a small boat then a bad on could in large waves.
Lake Erie like the Ocean is a dangerous lady who can blow her cool and wreck your day. Always watch weather reports and listen to weather channel. And as soon as the warn come in. You can always fish another day. But once you drown game over!

 

[Philster]

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Most people can't describe the seas they are referring to: ^^Case rested^^

5-7' waves: If you are standing on your deck, which is slightly below sea level on non-self bailing boats and a little above on self-bailing boats, a seven foot wave is about 1' over your head as you stand on the deck; Shaquile O'Neill excluded.

5-7' rollers: A 14' row boat could handle that.

 

[sasto]

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Philster said it very well.

I don't hesitate fishing the ocean in 5' rollers.
I stay home from fishing the river in a 2' chop.

 

[Thalasso]

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Philster said it very well.

I don't hesitate fishing the ocean in 5' rollers.
I stay home from fishing the river in a 2' chop.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
5-7 on Lake Erie. You aren't going to be out there in no 20 ft boat open or closed bow. 4 footers will chase you off. Philster is right on with his post.

 

[viper1]

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Been there in 6-8's and came back in. No fun and the boat can handle it just not me. It was by totally wrong choices. Personally i get beat to death in 3-4s in any boat.

 

[dingbat]

Re: 2005 Crownline 206ls in 1-3 foot waves?

Most people can't describe the seas they are referring to: ^^Case rested^^

5-7' waves: If you are standing on your deck, which is slightly below sea level on non-self bailing boats and a little above on self-bailing boats, a seven foot wave is about 1' over your head as you stand on the deck; Shaquile O'Neill excluded.

5-7' rollers: A 14' row boat could handle that.

True 5-7' waves will humble and beat the days lights out of you at the same time. Gettin too old to take an 8-10 hour beating just to catch a darn tuna.

 

[southkogs]

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I feel pretty confident in boats ... I've been on Lake Huron in 6 footers (breakers coming in shore) ... wouldn't be caught dead in a 20' in that same weather. But I was running those 6 footers in a Sunfish (got caught out and had to come back in - didn't go out on purpose), and was having too much fun to be properly scared.

I've been out on the ocean in 5' swells in a 24' and really didn't think twice about it.

Had my 15' in 3' storm chop here in TN and have only been more scared once (ever) in a boat that I can remember...

Philster makes a great point.

EDIT: I wouldn't be afraid of owning a 20' and using it on the Great Lakes. Lots of people do it. My first boat was a 15' tri-hull that the previous owner rigged for fishing Lake Huron. Be wise on when you decide it's too rough.

 

[azboater2]

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I love these kind of posts. There is no 'book' answer as we all can see. "Getting beat up" might be a fun ride for some people and it might be too rough for others. I think it really depends on how well you know your boat, including how dependable it is, how experienced you are, and to a great extent what you enjoy about boating. Sometimes I like rough weather as long as it's within my own personal safety range. Me and my 17 year old daughter might stay out in rough water just to gain experience. I can remember being out with her and water rolling over the bow, rain pouring down and having a great time. Boating is not always a fair weather sport, but there is nothing wrong if that?s not your thing. For the most part I stay away from the ramp if it does not look good, but sometimes I just want that kind of an outing. That being said, if I was in the same weather with my 10 year old son then I would for sure come in. So maybe what was missing from the post was what are your plans for your boating trip? I thing everybody here seems to know a lot about waves and judging them

In the Coast Guard Auxiliary before we leave for patrol, at the ramp we have to do a GAR (Green-Amber-Red) risk assessment form. Basically this is what you all are talking about. Think about the weather, your boat, your crew, and your mission, being it fishing, cruising, wake boarding, whatever it may be, then make an intelligent decision. Then the question becomes, how well do you know your own limits, and at what point does it become 'not fun' for you. Personally I think your all right because you are all speaking from your own experience. I hope what you gathered from all these posts is think carefully about your boat trip, the weather and your risk.

 

[smokeonthewater]

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last summer I was riding in a seadoo speedster (twin jetski engine 14' jetboat) at peanut island in west palm beach fla with my friend and two gals when he headed into the open ocean in 5-7' waves.... not swells but windblown whitecapped waves...... my back has never hurt so bad... I BEGGING him to head back in..... He says he does it all the time but I was not at all happy. Besides the pounding my spine was taking we were on the edge of disaster the whole time. If we had lost an engine or taken a single wave wrong we would have been swimming..... so in that example he would say "sure you can" and I would say "no way"
It's all a matter of point of view. Who knows, If I had been at the wheel and had no passengers to worry about I might have felt differently but I doubt it.