4.3 water in all cylinders.

AEROCOOK

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I?m trying to help my nephew find and fix a problem that he?s having with the motor in his boat, it?s a 1986 Rinker with an OMC 4.3.
The problem he has is that there?s water getting into the motor in all 6 cylinders and the oil is also milky too. I asked him to describe the exact conditions that led to the problem and here?s what he said? Hooked up the muffs, turned on the garden hose, started the motor and let it idle for 10 to 15 minutes, shut off motor but left the muffs on with water flowing. Went to restart 20 minutes later and wouldn?t start, discovered water in cylinders and in the oil.
He spoke to a technician at the local marina who said the exhaust manifolds may be cracked so they were removed and tested and were found to be good. He reinstalled the manifolds, changed the oil and blew the water out of the cylinders, restarted the motor, let it run for 10 minutes, shut it off (once again he left the muffs on with water flowing) and the same thing happened all over again, water in the oil and in all cylinders.
I don?t know much about these motors as I?ve always run outboards but I do have a theory that I?m hoping you guys can either dispel or find credible? Is it possible that because the muffs were left on after the motor was shut off that the water somehow backed up into the exhaust and into the cylinders through the exhaust ports? I would think that the water would just flow all the way through the motor and back out but I don?t know for sure. The fact that water is in all 6 cylinders leaves us looking for a source that is common to all cylinders and in my mind that?s the intake manifold or the exhaust.
Any ideas?
 

paultjohnson

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

:facepalm: How long has he had the boat? was it ok last year, this year even, or is this the 1st start after winter ? Who winterized it ? Was it winterized ? This isnt a good thing...at all...
 

AEROCOOK

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

:facepalm: How long has he had the boat? was it ok last year, this year even, or is this the 1st start after winter ? Who winterized it ? Was it winterized ? This isnt a good thing...at all...

New boat to him, first start up after winter and previous owner (a friend) claims it was winterized at a marina. I agree, not good at all.
Im an auto mechanic and the water in all cylinders phenomenon is strange to me, Ive seen plenty of motors damaged due to freezing but with cracked heads or block you typically dont see water/coolant in all cylinders.
Intake and exhaust manifolds are at the machine shop being pressure tested as we speak, Ill let you know how it turns out.
 

Jor-El

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

I'm having the same problem right now and several replies that I have had were saying its the riser gasket. I took it apart but haven't replaced it yet. When I did take it part it did look all junked up.
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

I'm having the same problem right now and several replies that I have had were saying its the riser gasket. I took it apart but haven't replaced it yet. When I did take it part it did look all junked up.


Howdy,


A riser gasket(s) leaking will usually allow water into cyls that have open exhaust valves after the engine stops turning.....and possibly another cyl on the other side via the exhaust crossover in the intake manifold etc. You usually don't get water in ALL the cyls.

Before you do anything else, you should probably pressure check the block/heads/intake manifold.


This can be accomplished with the exhaust manifolds on or off.

The block/heads etc should easily hold 15 psi indefinitely.

Remove the valve covers, (ex) manifolds, and flame arrester and you can listen closely for leaks.


Cheers,


Rick
 

AEROCOOK

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

Intake and exhaust manifolds checked out okay. I guess the heads are the next thing to check?
Does anybody know if there is a difference between marine and automotive heads on the 4.3?
Reason I ask is we have a good running Chevy Blazer with a bad body, it would be a real money saver if be could use the heads from it.
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

Just pressure check the entire cooling system.....

That should put you closer to the problem....
 

AEROCOOK

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

I agree but I would have to buy a set of intake gaskets in order to seal everything back up.
Just curious, how and where would you block off the water flow in order to pressure test?
 

Joshua Nichols

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Re: 4.3 water in all cylinders.

real easy, just takes some rigging up..dowl rods work good or a old broom stick.. Plug the hoses off the run to the exhaust.. Add your pressure to where the water enters the engine.. I would think you could block off that line and add pressure to the water jacket at one of the drains instead if you want..You are just trying to add air pressure to the cooling system.. If you got a crack you will know it.. Will be hissing.. If you don't hear anything.. Have a look at the exhaust
 
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