85 force stator wires

bearcave86

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I have a few wires that are resting on top of the block that are attached to the stator that are slightly melted. Any ideas besides electrical tape on how to protect these wires I would hate to have them short out. I've thought about taping them and then using some exhaust wrap underneath them. The second issue I am seeing is that the coil backs seem to be only held on with one bolt. The problem is no matter how tight I get the nut it sags down and hits the fuel filter. Am I missing another anchor spot? I'm trying to attach some pictures. The boat engine has been starting fairly well I usually get a loud pop at first then she fires right out. I've cleaned and inspected the carbs, added a second filter and set the idle needles at one full turn from lightly seated. Is this backfire/pop on initial startup telling me something or am I good to go? Thank you in advance.
 

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If you can slip on some heat shrink, that would be the better choice. But for a better suggestion, we will need pictures for sure... Try posting then again...
 

michaelkeb

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I think electrical tape would work just fine but the heat shrink would be the best option.
 

Frank Acampora

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It is sagging because at least one top rubber mount has broken and the other top mount is missing a spacer and nut.. Either replace any broken ones with new or use a bolt and spacers and definitely replace the missing spacer..

Once you stop the sagging the wires will no longer touch the block. As mentioned above heat shrink tubing will work. OR (easier to apply) the spiral wound wire protector which is what I use. It is available in electronic shops and possibly the big box stores

You can try gluing the rubber isolation mount with a good industrial rubber cement but I have never had any luck with this.
 
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bearcave86

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Well now i feel stupid haha thank you frank, you are wicked fast at replying. Any idea on where to buy new rubber mount? Do you have any thoughts regarding the backfire/pop at startup? Again thank you! If the flood waters will recede here in Texas maybe I can actually get on the water.
 

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The backfire/pop/cough is almost normal with 2 cycle engines during cold starting. It is not actually a backfire but more of a one cylinder firing while the others are not ready yet. You can minimize this by following proper starting procedures, i.e. fast idle and choke when first starting. As soon as it coughs or fires make sure you release the choke and let it warm for about half a minute and put it back in normal idle. No need to fast idle and choke if motor is already warmed up or hot. If motor does not start after trying for two or three times, release choke to avoid flooding but keep the throttle at fast idle.
 

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The shock mount is NLA and most break when taking them apart.
I looked and don't have one.
Maybe someone on here will have one.
If you can get the old stud out of the block, you can install a bolt in place of the part.
It can be rigged with a rubber grommet or piece of hose to sort of make a vibration free mount.
 

bearcave86

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Got it thanks guys i for the studs out Ill probably just use some bolts and drill a hole through it. Thanks
 

Frank Acampora

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Drill a hole through what? You grab the shock mount with a water pump pliers up close to the mounting boss and twist. It will unscrew right off. Then buy some 5/16 all thread and cut to length. Screw into the existing bosses. A couple of nuts and Bob's your uncle!

If the other two shock mounts are OK, then just replace the broken one with a piece of all thread or a bolt.
 

bearcave86

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I was referring to drilling a hole through the rubber mount and just using a bolt. I instead used some aircraft 9309 adhesive and it worked like a charm. Thank you Frank.
 

Frank Acampora

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I have been looking for a GOOD rubber glue. Who makes the 9309 aircraft adhesive and where can I buy it?
 

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Not sure if this is it or not, but it's sure is pricey.

Google this. [h=1]Henkel Hysol EA9309NA Epoxy Paste Adhesive[/h]
 
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bearcave86

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Surface prep is everything I work in a composite bond shop where we basically glue blades together. I used 80 grit sand paper, acetone, 9309 and cook at 150 degrees. pnwboat is correct. This stuff holds helicopter blades together and basically bonds to anything, if you apply it correctly it is well worth the money.









 
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