'85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

gw204

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I removed the heads on my '85 Merc. 150 Black Max in order to address stripped spark plug threads only to find scoring in the walls of the no. 2 cylinder (top cylinder, port side on a V6). My belief is the damage has been there a while as there is no evidence of aluminum shavings/pieces in the cylinder. The other five cylinders are in great shape; I can still see the cross hatch pattern. I’m not sure what may have caused this situation. It doesn't overheat, oil injection is working properly, etc. The motor has run great since I got it three years ago and a compression test prior to the head removal didn’t reveal any potential problems. Just this year, I rebuilt the carburetors and fuel pump. The motor is also in great shape cosmetically with the exception of the standard paint scraped off the skeg of the lower unit. <br /><br />So, now for your suggestions. With a second child on the way, I’m on a very limited budget. A new motor is almost certainly out of the question. I’m very good with tools and I now my way around a garage, but honestly, I’ve never attempted a rebuild of any type of motor. With the help of a factory shop manual, is this something that I could possibly accomplish on my own? I’m not afraid of it by any means. Honing of the cylinders isn't going to cut so boring is in order I think. What's the max you can bore Merc's 2.0 V6 block? What other, if any mods, will I need to make to accomodate the larger combustion chambers? <br /><br />Sure, purchasing a rebuilt powerhead has it’s advantages (warranty, ease), but seems like $3000 is A LOT!! Buying a rebuilt motor has advantages/disadvantages as does buying a used motor. I guess it all depends on where you get it from. I figure by rebuilding the powerhead myself, I can save enough to be able to replace all or most of the electronic components.<br /><br />What do you all think? <br /><br />Thanks for the advice.
 

Steve135

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

GW204- If aint broke don't fix it.That is if the motor is running fine as it is now just fix the spark plug threads and keep going. Now if the motor is giving you problems do to that cylinder than... its your call. But don't kid yourself on saving enought to buy new electricl parts with the savings! There won't be that much saved. Rembeber time is money 3000.00 and 2/3 nights and your done. Its going to take you several nites to remove the powerhead and than get it bored out go hunting for parts and waiting for parts to come in so on so on.<br />Just my two cents<br />steve
 

gw204

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

Stinky,<br /><br />Thanks for the response. Continue running it has been suggested by a few other people I know but honestly, I just couldn't do that and have any sort of peace of mind. Something happened or is happening to cause that and sooner or later it's gonna bite me you know where! And with plans to run to the Hot Dog out of O.C., MD she's gotta be in tip-top shape.<br /><br />Anyway, you do make a good point about time vs. money in rebuilding it myself. With the baby coming in about a month, I figure I've got six to seven months until I can get serious about fishing again so that gives me plenty of time. Until then, I've got a 15' tri-hull I can use to roam the Chesapeake.<br /><br />Thanks again for the input. I haven't made any decisions yet. Opinions/advice is exactly what I'm looking for.
 

Dhadley

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

Pistons are available up to 0.060 oversize. <br /><br />Good luck!
 

gw204

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

Dhadley,<br /><br />Thanks. I was pointed towards Wiseco by a member on tidalfish.com. I have yet to find out how much of an over-bore I will need. What, if any, modifications are necessary for the intake and exhaust to compensate for the increase in displacement? Or is the increase, depending on bore enlargement, too small to warrant any changes.<br /><br />Thanks for all of your help guys. When I get started, I plan on documenting everything for anyone who is interested, photos and all.<br /><br />Wish me luck.<br /><br />Brian
 

Dhadley

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

Even if you have to go to 0.060 (doubtful) you should not have to make any adjustments as long as your motor is running as it should as far as fuel delivery, timing and so on. As you said, the displacement increase is minimal.<br /><br />Good luck!
 

gw204

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

I can't thank you enough for the information and tips. Fuel system is basically new from the tank back. I plan on adding new fill and vent lines over the winter while the boat is "resting". Then after the rebuild is complete. Everything will be set to specs. Currently I don't have a factory shop manual...that is first on my list of parts. I do have a Clymer but don't want to rely entirely on it.<br /><br />Thanks again.
 

Hooty

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Re: '85 Merc. 150 - Scored no. 2 cylinder

Hey gw, I just started my V6 'rude tody for the first time in a month. I had to replace the crankshaft! Went through the whole thing and it's textbook. Great project!<br />Unless you just want to, there's no need to re-bore all six cylinders. You can just re-bore the one and put an oversized piston in it. You'll never know the difference.<br /><br />c/6<br /><br />Hooty
 
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