9.5 hp johnson first start in 15 years

RTripp

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what should I do before trying to start this motor - it's a 1969 9.5 johnson model 9R-69S

It's been sitting in a garage for 15 years.
 

racerone

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New water pump impeller.-----Inspect coils under flywheel.----Change gear oil.-----Inspect thermostat, they are often stuck open.
 

F_R

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Remove the slotted hex head plug from the bottom of the carburetor and look at the end of it. If it has a coating of varnish on it, it probably was stored without draining the gas and carburetor will need to be cleaned. But if it is nice and clean, put it back in and leave the carburetor alone for now.
 

Vic.S

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Read the topic " Awakening a sleeping outboard" on the engine FAQs board

Rats thats gone!
 

RTripp

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Vic.s


Is this it?

Awakening a Sleeping Outboard


I see a lot of posts from folks who have a motor that has been in storage, belonged to their dad or granddad, or for another reason. I recently went through most of these steps myself in preparing a motor which hadn’t been used for 15 years. Following is an attempt to provide a concise list of steps.

a reference book is a must. Although some folks use Seloc or Clymer manuals, they cover a range of engines and sometimes details are omitted. The reprints of the original OMC manualsare the most specific to your particular engine. Get one of them.

If any steps prove challenging or if there are questions about any of the processes, post a question in the applicable forum here at BOC You will receive an answer from one or more of the many experienced veterans here.

Let’s get started.

Lower Unit – Remove the prop and any fishing line that may be tangled, wound around the prop shaft. If the shaft is splined, apply a coat of marine bearing grease to it before re-installing the prop. If an inspection of the prop indicates any damage that could cause a vibration or imbalance, replace it or have it repaired. The rubber bushing securing the hub to the prop itself may also need replacing, but that probably cannot be determined until boat-tested.

Remove the drain screw (bottom) from the lower unit and observe the quality of the lube as it exits. If it is milky, there has been water intrusion. If you observe metal shards, there may be gear damage requiring a re-build of the lower unit. If it is empty, there may be other problems. Remove the vent screw (top screw) to allow complete draining. If none of the above mentioned situations exists, fill with lube from the bottom screw hole until lube emerges from the vent hole. Lube should be available from any oil outlet and labeled as suitable for outboardlower units.

Note: Electric shift lower units require different lube than manual shift units. Check your manual.

After unit has been filled, replace vent screw using an appropriate new screw-head
gasket. Then do the same for the fill screw, trying to prevent as little loss of lube as possible.

Water Pump – Using your manual as a reference, replace the water pump – if not the complete pump, by all means replace the rubber impeller. This is absolutely necessary on motors of unknown history or on motors that haven’t had a new one in a couple of years. Before re-assembling mid-section (lower leg), see next step.

Cylinder Walls – If not already, lay the motor so the sparkplugs are up. Remove them and put in a few squirts from an oil can filled with TCW-3 oil. Move the engine around so that the oil will contact cylinder walls. Allow it to soak for a day or two. By hand, rotate the flywheel a couple of times. If it resists rotating, allow to soak longer. When flywheel finally rotates freely, install new sparkplugs.

Spark – Pull the plug wires from the sparkplugs. Your spark should jump a minimum of a 3/8" gap with a hot thick spark. If it doesn’t, you need maintenance on the ignition system. Check the sparkplug cables for cracked insulation. Otherwise, the needed maintenance will be determined by type and year of motor you’re working on. Refer to your manual. Replace the spark plugs with the manufacturer's recommended plugs, keeping the old ones as spares.

Wiring – Check all engine wiring for brittle insulation or fraying. This would necessitate re-wiring or installation of a new wiring harness.

Lubrication – Lube all moving parts including throttle linkage (white lithium) and steering shaft(chassis lube is OK).

Carburetors – Remove and disassemble carburetor(s). Soak in carb. cleaner or spray with aerosol carb. cleaner, paying particular attention to all small passages and fuel-ways. Blow dry with compressed air, again, paying particular attention to internal passages. Reassemble using an appropriate carburetor rebuild kit. If kit doesn't include a new needle and seat, get one. If the float is cork, replace it with a plastic one. Some kits include them. If the float is plastic, make sure the integrity has not been compromised. Re-install and link and sync according to your manual. Replace all under-cowl fuel lines.

Fuel pump – Using your manual as reference, remove fuel pump and clean metal parts with carb. cleaner. Install a new fuel pump kit, or replace fuel pump entirely. Replace fuel filter and any vacuum hoses that may be connected.

Fuel tank – Replace the fuel line along with the squeeze bulb (OEM bulb preferred). Note: on dual-line tank, there is no squeeze bulb. Drain fuel tank. With a flashlight, inspect for dirt, debris, or rust. If OK, rinse and refill with correct fuel/oil mix. If there are quick release connectors on the fuel lines, check the small o-rings at either end. Replace if necessary.

Controls - If remote control, check throttle and gearshift cables for proper operation. Mine were frayed and rusted and had to be replaced.

Carburetor Adjustment - For those small Johnson, Evinrude, and Gale motors with adjustablejets.
(Carburetor Adjustment - Single S/S Adjustable Needle Valve)


Initial setting is: Slow speed = seat gently, then open 1-1/2 turns.

Start engine and set the rpms to where it just stays running. In segments of 1/8 turns, start to turn the S/S needle valve in. Wait a few seconds for the engine to respond. As you turn the valve in, the rpms will increase. Lower the rpms again to where the engine will just stay running.

Eventually you'll hit the point where the engine wants to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mild backfire). At that point, back out the valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest slow speed setting.

Note: As a final double check setting of the slow speed valve(s), if the engine has more than one carburetor, do not attempt to gradually adjust all of the valves/carburetors at the same time. Do one at a time until you hit the above response (die out or spit back), then go on to the next valve/carburetor. It may be necessary to back out "all" of the slow speed adjustable needle valves 1/8 turn before doing this final adjustment due to the fact that one of the valves might be initially set ever so slightly lean.

When you have finished the above adjustment, you will have no reason to move them again unless the carburetor fouls/gums up from sitting, in which case you would be required to remove, clean, and rebuild the carburetor anyway.

(High Speed Adjustments)
At full throttle, with the proper size screwdriver, slowly start turning one of the H/S needles in segments of 1/8 turn, waiting momentarily for the engine to respond, then repeat turning. You will reach a point where the engine will start to die out. At that point, back that needle valve out approximately 1/4 turn. Now, go to the other High Speed needle valve and repeat that procedure. At some point in that 1/4 turn out, you will find the smoothest high speed setting (you can now lower the throttle rpm). That will have both high speed needle valves set correctly, and at that point you can lift that center lever adjustment of that high ridge, keeping it lifted until the point is facing the engine, then lower it into its proper position. (When you turn that lever now, you're adjusting both High Speed needle valves at the same time.)
 

RTripp

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I started it up and it ran like a dream come true. So easy to start. After an hour or so main fuel line sprang a leak. I replaced it for $1.59. Then I noticed the gaskets on the fuel pump allowed gas to leak. New kit coming soon. Grease in lower end replaced, the carburetor is clean. They must have drained the tank before storing. Impeller works great. I'll know more when I get the fuel pump kit installed, but I think this is a beauty.

I read Leroy's ramblings and the "awakening a sleeping outboard."
 

Saintnowhere

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usually all that is needed to bring one back is points, condensers, lower unit lube, water pump impeller, carb cleaning/kit and replace fuel pump and all hoses. and even if the water pump impeller is working, time still takes its toll on rubber, you need to change it so it doesn't disintegrate on you during an outing and overheat it.
 

RTripp

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thanks for all the responses!! This is a great forum with great members.

does anyone know of a good video on changing out the impeller. I can't seem to find one.
 

RTripp

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Thank you, Everyone. Fuel pump coming tomorrow. Ordering impeller, now.
 

RTripp

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Hello I have replaced fuel lines, fuel pump, impeller, spark plugs and new grease in lower end. I just put a new carb kit in and it runs the same as it did before replacing all the above. Which means it cranks 1st pull. Idles nice. When I put it in forward it will only rev up to the rpm level I get just past the start mark on throttle handle.

I watched a youtube video on cleaning and rebuilding the carb. There was no mention of The high speed jet. And, there was no high speed jet in the carb kit. But, after further reading on past posts from people on this forum I have discovered the orifice plug. So, I now know where it is found, way in behind that hex head drain plug.

Do you think this could be my problem and is there a tool to get it out?
 

RTripp

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I just sprayed some carb cleaner into that tunnel and it went through the orifice and shot out the top of the carb.

It seems to be running a lot better now. It was throwing the water out of trash can and had a nice rev to it.

I know this is the worst weekend to put a boat on the water. Memorial Weekend. I will probably wait til Tuesday.
 
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