90' Force 150 HP Not Firing

tybouff

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Greetings friends,

I have a 1990 Bayliner Cobra with a 150HP Force outboard engine. The issue: when I turn the key the starter turns the flywheel weakly, gradually slowing until I let of the key. Details: this occurred three days ago and I had been pulling tubes and skiers for a couple of hours. I parked the boat, we ate lunch and then fired it up again only to have the engine puke out on me as I tried to pull a tube out of the hole. I fired it up again thinking the engine stalled and the same thing happened. The next time I tried to start it is when the described issue occurred. I opened the battery compartment to find that smoke was coming from the positive accessory wire and that the housing was melting. Further Details: I run everything off of a one year old marine cranking battery which seems fully charged. "Everything" includes the power and ground wire that run to the engine (duh), and a positive and negative accessory wire. Not only does the accessory include the depth finder and dash gauges, but also a new, self installed sound system. I have six interior speakers wired directly to the head unit, one sub woofer with a built in amp, and four tower speakers which are also powered by an amp. Both amps as well as the head unit's power and ground wires are all tapped into one power and ground wire that must connect to the positive and negative accessory wires. There was one 10 ampere fuse in between all of these accessories and the battery. I say "was" because I blew that fuse two outings ago and replaced it with a 30 ampere fuse. This fuse is located on a panel with several other fuses under the dash. My guess is that A: the positive accessory wire is too small to handle all of the accessories and B: the wire slowly burnt up (I ran the boat for one outing before this one with seemingly no problems) because the new 30 ampere fuse allows too much current (or whatever it is) to pass through instead of just blowing up and protecting my wires. Is this a solid conclusion? If this is the case, what could I have damaged that will not allow enough juice to go to the starter? Could I have somehow loosened a ground wire from the starter? Any tips and pointers are super appreciated as always. Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards,
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 90' Force 150 HP Not Firing

YEP! With the accessory load you have, the main power and ground wiring needs to be at least 10 gauge. A 30 amp fuse or breaker is too high a rating for any gauge wire under 10. (12, 14, 16, 18 gauges. Wire size decreases as gauge number rises.)

Also, with the power you are drawing, don't expect the engine to keep the battery fully charged--this is not an automobile with a 75 amp alternator. Play that stereo too long and there will not be enough "juice" left in the battery to start the engine. The same starter is used on the 3,4,and 5 cylinder engines Thus: It is marginal starting the big 150 and if the battery is not fully charged, it just won't do the job. Use a separate deep cycle battery to power the accessories and your main starting battery for engine starting only. That way when it (accessory battery) runs out, you can still start the engine.
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: 90' Force 150 HP Not Firing

Start by charging the battery.
Then load test it.
Then check all the connections.The grounds too.
Then check the starter,take it apart and clean it.
Then do a compression test.
Remove all the plugs when doing this.

Just adding a bigger fuse is a good way to start a fire.
 

tybouff

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Re: 90' Force 150 HP Not Firing

Thanks guys for affirming my suspicions... I forgot to mention that I removed the accessory wires from the battery posts and tried starting it with just the main power and ground wires to the engine. The starter still didn't have enough juice to fire. So I will try charging the battery and checking connections. Thanks for the tips!
 

Greg1983

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So what did you find cause my 89 150 force is slow turning with my battery it’s a marine 650 ca
 

jerryjerry05

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Most auto parts stores have a load tester to check the battery.
Batteries made today don't last like the older ones.
Working on an older boat with twin batteries.
One's marked Jan13, the other May14
The 2014 is shot, the 2013 still holds power and works great.
Girlfriends car: the battery lasts 2-3 years MAX!!
 
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