91 Johnson 200 temp warning

loss4wrds

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As the title says I am getting water temp warning buzzer on my ve200txeib motor about 2-3min after start-up. It is a 30sec continuous buzz then the timp light stays on after the buzzer stops. The motor seems to be peeing as it should.
So far I have tested the thermostats and they are opening and closing (I didn't test at a specific temp)
I have tested the temp sensors in both heads and they switch on and off. (again I didn't test at a specific temp just for function)
I have checked all the physical connections I could find for good connection.
I have done a complete impeller kit. (housing, wear plate, impeller, o-rings)
Compression seems a bit low but that could be the tester I was using and all 6 came in between 105 and 120. So I just moved to the next item to test.
Purchased a temp gauge and installed it and got the following results:
The motor is running around 150-155* at idle and around 135-145* @ 4k rpm and back up around 150* at WOT

I am thinking it may be the water control valve but not exactly sure how to test that or to bypass it for testing. Can I just drill a hole 1/8" in the rubber gasket around the thermostat to let some water bypass like I would on an automotive thermostat?

The boat is in Arkansas and has always been registered here (looking at the old registration stickers I took off) So I doubt I have any sort of salt/mineral issues in the motor. But anything is always possible.

How can I test water pressure from the pump? Where can I T in a gauge for a proper test?

Is running the motor at these temps going to cause issue? I would like to fix this but if it isn't hurting anything I will just run it and spend my $$ and time working on other aspects of the boat that need work.

Thanks for your time.
 

jakedaawg

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Guessing you have a bad horn/sys check guage or a bad sensor. Just a guess though.
 

Fed

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Could be the vacuum switch, follow the fuel line from the under cowl filter towards the VRO and see if it tees off to a vacuum switch.
 

loss4wrds

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What temp should the sensors close and make the connection to ground?
Are the operating temps I am seeing safe to run the motor at?
VRO has been removed not sure if it was done properly or not but will check for vacuum switch. Thanks for the tips guys.
 

Fed

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My 1988 90HP sensors close at 203 Degrees F, +/- 6 Degrees F so I think your temps are fine.

If it turns out to be the vacuum switch triggering then you should find out why, blocked tank vent or fuel filter would be high on the list.
 

loss4wrds

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Ok so today i tested the temp sensors at the specific temps spec'd out in the manual and the single wire sensor was switching at a wide variety of temps. So that is an issue. Got one on order now.
However in further testing I had both sensors disconnected and it still had a temp buzzer go off for 20sec or so and buzzer went off and then the temp light remained on.
The oil injection was removed but not sure if done properly. I didn't see any vacuum lines as mentioned above.
Is this a fuel restriction alarm or is there something else I need to check?
 

loss4wrds

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Port sensor tested at:
White with black stripe closed at 110*
Tan closed at 205*
Starboard didn't close till 250* then after it switched the first time it was closing at 135*
So i have that sensor on order but the same alarm i have been trying to figure coming on with both sensors disconnected has me thrown.
 

loss4wrds

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So doing some research on bypassing the VRO and users say to unplug the harness on the VRO pump.
I gave it a shot and unplugged the harness on the pump and my temp buzzer went away.
So is that correct to unplug that harness when bypassing the VRO?
 
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