Re: a good debate
> fire arms, people who collect people killers in >my opinion are wrong regardless of their >socioeconmic situation, <br /><br />In your opinion I'm wrong. That is fine with me Miloman. It's fine with me even if it's based on fear, emotion, or any other reason. <br />However, you started this thread and it was a political one. You also were the one that changed the course of the topic and introduced gun control. You started this debate and I'm participating with you. The major point is that I'm not meddling into your lifestyle by voicing an opinion on it. I especially wouldn't if it was based on fear/emotion or misrepresenting the facts.<br /><br />You keep mentioning "peoplekillers." A gun is a piece of metal and wood/plastic, it is like a stone, or a stick, or a hubcap on a car.<br />Cain didn't slay Able with a gun and David didn't slay Goliath with a "peoplekiller"<br /><br />>as a good Christian I wouls surly break bread with<br />>>if my neighbor was a moral honorable humble sole and he had a closet full of hand guns and assault rifles I would want to get as far >>away from him as possible<br /><br />OK, you might be able to see where I'd be confused.
I only pointed out that a good Christian would break bread. Your previous statement infers prejudice. <br /><br />>I dont believe I made reference to you I teach my children to respect all and again personal references to myself or my family make me >question your ethics the fact you legally are allowed to possess weapons is your right.<br /><br />Again, this confuses me because the issue was your opinion on people who own guns. I own many that you consider "peoplekillers". Logically I'd understand that you made reference to me. <br />In all fairness we both made personal references to our families/children in the course of discussion. I'm sorry if you felt I was disrespecting them/you. Sincerely it wasn't my intention.<br />However, I feel I've made headway since you've acknowledged my right to possess legal firearms.<br /><br />>why the need for people killers in fact I tend to think that you are an educated man which leads me to the question again why do you >possess people killers<br /><br />I've given you SEVERAL reasons in SEVERAL posts why. Even though I've given you SEVERAL reasons You're unwilling to accept ANY as legitimate. <br />Here is one more answer to your question and I'll make it harsh to drive it home to you. Since I choose to legally own and exercise my Constitutional right and it doesn't have an adverse effect on you or yours, it isn't any of your business why. It should be a complete NON issue to you.<br /><br />> what is it that you fear the man across the street<br /><br />I went over this in my previous post. Again, your not accepting what I'm saying as sincere, honest beliefs.
<br /><br />>Did the forefathers intend for you to own people killers.<br /><br />Absolutely! <br />Thats affirmative! <br />Yes, without a doubt!<br />Just because you don't accept it, doesn't mean it isn't true.<br /><br />> did your for fathers intend for you to avoid conflict for fear that the other person has a concealed weapon<br /><br />You don't know, that you don't know. <br />Two strange men meet in the woods, both assume the other is armed, here is the MOST respectful, cordial, polite men you'll ever meet! I've personally witnessed it time and time again.<br />Morally correct, free men are generally respectful.<br /><br />> I dont think so I believe that you are blinded by this fact was it not the intent of the forfathers to give you the right to bear arms to protect >yourself from fiend or government, then why such a negative view of malitia Had the forfathers been present in todays society Im sure >that that ammendment would be very different<br /><br />Your pulling old Skinnys leg aren't you?<br />Please Miloman, next time think twice about starting a political thread. Think three times before you start a political/hotbed debate. Think four times before you start using language like flawed and wrong before you talk about a mans Constitution, lifestyle and freedom.
<br /><br />>I do believe that your government must rewrite the laws to such a degree that we as law abiding citizens ( your self included Im sure) dont >have to be concerned that as I go to work in the morning a sniper or disgruntled employee will kill me or anyone else <br /><br />We need to enforce the laws we already have. Miloman, I'm NOT concerned that I'll get killed by a gunman on my way to work in the morning. I'm WAY WAY more concerned I'll get killed by a road rageing young woman who had an arguement with her hubby earlier that morning. Or that businessman who is talking golf on his cellphone during the commute. Or the housewife in the Excursion that is yelling at the kids at 82 MPH. Or the 76 year old man that is entering Interstate5 at 41mph and can't turn his arthitic head around to check his blindspot. <br /><br />>I believe it to be fact that countries with stricter gun control as a whole have less crime and murder <br /><br />I don't even want to be a Canadian
, or Chinese, or Russian, Israeli, Brit, French, Iraqi.<br /> I'm American, a hardworker, a freeman, a lover and a fighter, don't try to talk me into something less, PLEASE!<br /><br /> >I believe you to be blinded by your god given right<br /><br />God doesn't blind us. He shows us the light so we can see, Miloman. <br /><br /> >As the moral man you say you are how would you feel if your neighbor co worker friend or family was gunned down by a crazed person >who also believed in his god given right Im sure your opinion would change.<br /><br />Maybe so, but then my view would be based on emotion instead of common sense, fact and logic. I'm sure I wouldn't emotionally debate gun control on the www after such a tragedy.<br /><br />>Enough of this post I hope JB will close it.<br /><br />Miloman, you can stop this anytime you want. I've only posted to you as a rebuttal. <br />Again, my apologies if I've seemed harsh. I've not meant any disrespect to you, your views or feelings. Thank you for your participation and for the entertainment this has provided.<br />God bless and peace to you and yours Miloman.
