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miloman

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If there was 1 law that could be changed what would it be and why? Id chage alot of them but 1. drinking and driving. Immediate jail time I say
 

snapperbait

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Re: a law to change

The law I would change (or add) is that all persons (police, judges, military, politicians, ect.) who are there to create/uphold/enforce the law, should be subject to at least double the full penalty, if they were to break the laws they create/uphold/enforce...<br /><br />Right??? :confused:
 

roscoe

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Drinkin and Driving? That requires real skill. They should hand out awards not penalties. I used to be real skilled at it. Now I have a hard time drinking my coffee while someone else is driving.<br /><br />But seriously, I would like to see a federal or state law along the lines of Colorado's Castle/Property protection law, allowing force to be used to protect ones belongings.<br /><br />How about creating an open season on french politicians?
 

Homerr

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Good one Bait...<br /><br />What would I change..Hmmm...Tough one.<br /><br />So many to choose or create.<br /><br />How about get rid of all lawyers?<br />That would be a good place to start?<br /><br />Guess that's not a law. One to change eh?<br /><br />Our Fish and Wildlife has some really questionable laws in Oregon. I'd say changing some of them would be near the top of my list.<br />This would go in hand with Bait's idea making them double-responsible.<br />We have a points system for our controlled hunts.<br />If you don't get your first choice hunt the year you apply, then you get a 'point' for the next year putting you ahead of others etc...<br /><br />Well, not many years ago, some employees at the Fish and Wildlife was taking advantage of this to improve their points. <br />Some hunts get canceled for one reason or another. Well, these workers knew which ones were going to get the axe, so they applied for those hunts. When the hunts were canceled, they got their points.<br />It was taken to court, but the Judge said it wasn't exactly illegal...Just 'Not playing fair'<br />"Inside information" is the words used I think.<br /><br />You think anything happened to the Fish and Wildlife? Not a damn thing.<br /><br />Like some folks have said...They have so many rules and regs these days, you have to have a lawyer to go fishing anymore!<br />Whatever happened to just go fishing?<br />If you forgot your license...No biggie. The game warden would say bring it next time.<br /><br />Not these days...They take your gear, truck, first born, and yank your hunting and fishing privileges.<br /><br />So to change, I would have to agree with bait. Have the people making or upholding the laws extra responsible.<br /><br />Don't get me started!<br /><br />LOL!<br /><br />H.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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I would have to go with the drinking and driving laws being more than a slap on the wrist for first time offenders.<br /><br />Total disregard for other human beings safety is unacceptable.<br /><br />Way to many people killed by this act.<br /><br />Let them sit in jail for a year, that is if no one was hurt or killed, and maybe, just maybe, they will think about it next time.<br /><br />No one can manage to drink and drive safely. Period.<br /><br />Got to shut up now before I get started.
 

magster65

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In B.C. drinking and driving on your first conviction gets you a 1 year suspension and a $500 fine. If you get a second it's another 1 year suspension, $1000 and 7 days in the crowbar hotel. A third (I think) is a permanent suspension, $1000 and 21 days. If you're caught driving while suspended they double your sentence. Also now if you are charged (not convicted) you lose your liscence automatically for 90 days (yep, guilty until proven innocent).
 

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As long as I can remember I have joked that if I were appointed to make a new law it would require lawmaking bodies to repeal a law for every new one they make.<br /><br />The more time passes the more I like the idea.
 

magster65

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That makes too much sense. They'd rather legislate us into submission.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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And whats the deal with this guy in CA.<br /><br />He might get the death penalty?<br /><br />I would say he would for sure.<br /><br />That seems to be a no brainer unless there is some kind of law that says otherwise.
 

FLATHEAD

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I think I would crack down on the insurance companys. Way to many people working after retirement age because of the high cost of health care. Also would do something about all the ridiculous law suites that are filed for every little scrape and bumb these days. If they put every drunk driver in jail for a year we would have to spend billions on new jails.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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I would druther they spend money for more jails than to have some drunk sob take out me or my family because he is to stupid to not drive while he is drunk.
 

SlowlySinking

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One problem with drunk driving enforcement is that almost every person involved from the cop who arrests to to your lawyer, the jury and the judge likely drink. Sympathy is part of the problem, here in Suffolk County there are judges who are known to go easy on DWI cases, the lawyers know this and try to get them for the trial. Helps to explain why Prohibition didn't work. With a show of hands who reading this post doesn't drink, and who has NEVER got behind the wheel of a car after they had been drinking???????? See the problem, drunks drive because they think they can.
 

FLATHEAD

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Yes the drunk driving thing is a real problem. While I agree that I dont want these clowns on the road. I think building prisons to house them is not really a viable option. Right now as we speak violent offenders are out on probation because of overcrowed prisons. What we can do about it is beyond me. Stiff fines and lose of licence deters some but there are the ones that do it again and again and yes I agree the habitual offenders should get some real jail time.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Well, I for one can raise my hand to say that my wife nor I have ever drank.<br /><br />I have no sympathy for anyone that gets caught drinking and driving.<br /><br />If you have ever seen a whole family taken out by a drunk driver then you will know what I mean.<br /><br />Use to work at a wrecker yard and seen this and it revolts me to this very day.<br /><br />The drunk got a broken nose out of the whole deal and killed a man, woman and 2 children.<br /><br />I'm done with this.<br /><br />Just makes me mad :mad: at the whole judicial system for letting these people walk to kill someone, and it will happen. Might think it won't happen to you, but it will sooner or later and I don't want it to be to me or my family.
 

OBJ

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Good Topic miloman.<br /><br /> "NO GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY" <br /><br />How many times have we seen murderers and such go to an institution instead of prison or get the death penalty and then get released in a few years to go back on the street. Granted there may be a few who would fall under this type of plea but, just to many get off or get their "just due" because some slick lawyer "proves" them insane. Send them to the institution, get them sane and then give them a sentence....for life!<br /><br />I would also like to see better laws that deal with child molesters or anyone who, with pre-meditation, hurt kids. Send them to a special place just for them and they don't get out period.<br />To many of these sickos get back on the street. This really burns my bacon.
 

crab bait

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well delaware has old laws still on the books but rarely inforced..called 'blue' laws..<br /><br />there's a blue law that says it unlawful to kick your wife with shoes on..<br /><br />i think it should be updated to allow at least bedroom slippers.. ;)
 

golfer

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I agree with all of you about "drunk" driving. I do think there has to be a better dividing line about what is considered drunk. I think it is terrible that someone has to worry about having 2 beers after work, and then driving. After 2 beers, I never, ever, have been even close to having trouble driving, thinking, or anything like that. What we need to do, is to allow casual drinking, and crack down on the real threat offenders. Also, what is not taken into consideration, is the dgree to which someone can hold alcohol. Two adults, weighing the same, might be drastically differing in their reaction to the same amount of alcohol. I think an allowable amount should be 3 beers/drinks. Then, over 3, less than 6 should be punished moderately. Any over 6 should be very serious punishment. And sloppy drunk, punishment so harsh, no one will even consider getting that way to begin with.<br /><br />If I had to change a law...<br /><br />I would stiffen up the laws dealing with crime. I say an eye for an eye. I think theft, people that steal, should have their hands cut off. People that rape, should have their wankers cut off, and burned with cattle prods. People that kill, well, no more than 1 week in jail, then take them out in the middle of town and blow their head off. I still am in disbelief about people that protest the death penalty. What a deterrant to major crime it would be, if the person considering it knew beyond a shadow of a doubt, it will end their life...
 

roscoe

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Wow, I'm shocked, no comments on my gun use to protect property law.<br /><br />As for Peterson in California, it would be better and cheaper for him not to get the death penalty. Then he can be housed in the general population in prison. They will take care of him. They don't take kindly to guys that kill kids. Example: Jeffrey Dahmer.<br /><br />Crab Bait, Just tell her to take her shoes off. And why ya lettin her wear shoes anyway. I don't think Bubba would approve. :)
 

muskyone

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wll in minasota 3rd offence drunk driveing thay take the car your driveing and thay don't care whos it is or how much you owe on it a alaw i would change any crime on a child would be life or death no exceptions no shrinks oh it might be fourth off dui
 
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