A short zap my battery's power?

marleywars

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Bought a new starter battery for my 50ESL73R Johnson and it started right up. I had some separate coolant issues, took the lower unit off, serviced and replaced. All back together, Icranked it over and the starter spun but briefly made some contact with the fly wheel, but didn't start. After that, the voltage on the battery went below 12 amps, then to 9 amps, and continued down from there and there was not enough juice to even to get a "click."

Question, is their a short somewhere in the system that is draining the battery that quickly?
 

Scott Danforth

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I am guessing you mean 12 volts

first, is the battery charged?
second, if the battery is charged, have it tested. New doesnt mean good
 

marleywars

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Volts yes. Typing early morning with no coffee in the house is not a good combination. The battery is literally brand new and it was charged. I used a volt meter to test it prior to cranking and was at 12.44 volts. But the more I cranked it, it just drained and drained. But yeah, the possibility that it was a lemon crossed my mind. All my negatives seem to be grounded properly to the block.
 

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Are we talking hours or days or what? Assuming a short amount of time, it would be safe to guess you do have a short. But there should be other indications such as a spark when you connect the battery cables. heat, smoke, etc.
 

Vic.S

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Bought a new starter battery for my 50ESL73R Johnson and it started right up. I had some separate coolant issues, took the lower unit off, serviced and replaced. All back together, Icranked it over and the starter spun but briefly made some contact with the fly wheel, but didn't start. After that, the voltage on the battery went below 12 amps, then to 9 amps, and continued down from there and there was not enough juice to even to get a "click."

Question, is their a short somewhere in the system that is draining the battery that quickly?

If there is a short somewhere draining the battery quickly something will be getting hot , or at least very warm but you do not know for sure how well the battery was charged when you fitted it

If you have drained the battery as low as 9 volts, when measured with no load, you have done it no favours.

Get the battery on to a good multistage battery charger with a maximum output current adequate for the size ( Ah capacity) and charge it until you can measure about 12.7 volts if the battery is allowed to stand with no load or charge for 12 hours.

ideally then monitor the rate at which the volts fall. They will fall quickly at first but should take days if not weeks to fall below 12 .6.

If you cannot get the battery up to 12.7 rested or it wont retain a good charge it is probably not going to be much good although some battery chargers will to some extent "rescue" a deeply discharged battery.

When you reconnect the battery take great care that you do not reverse the polarity , as that will blow the diodes in the rectifier. It would be sensible to measure the current flow if any when you connect it. Either connect it cautiosly with an ordinary ammeter in circuit or measure the current with a clamp type ammeter that can measure DC amps.

If you find any measurable current ( more than say a few milliamps ) you will need to investigate the reason for it. If you measure a high current, disconnect again immediately and then investigate.
 

Vic.S

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Volts yes. Typing early morning with no coffee in the house is not a good combination. The battery is literally brand new and it was charged. I used a volt meter to test it prior to cranking and was at 12.44 volts. But the more I cranked it, it just drained and drained. But yeah, the possibility that it was a lemon crossed my mind. All my negatives seem to be grounded properly to the block.

12.44 volts does not represent anything like fully charged if it was not on load and had not been on load prior to taking the reading..
 

oldboat1

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Talk about the "separate coolant issues", also any issues with removal or replacement of the gearcase. The driveshaft might be jammed somehow -- any problems getting the lower unit up into place? Any electrical issues addressed along the way.
 

jimmbo

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What is the Marine Amp rating of the Battery? Also does it have a CCA rating? Just out of Curiosity, what brand is it?
 
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