age and adding charging system?

didineedthat

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Hi Model J25RCRD Ser# E5909572 Johnson Seahorse 1986?<br />Curious to the the age, :cool: also wanted to know if a charging system could be added to this electric start motor. Someone said that this particular model could be bumped up to a 35 hp...<br />Is premium gas recommended..and a 50 to 1 oil mix?
 

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Re: age and adding charging system?

Hi didineedthat<br /><br />Not sure what brand of outboard you have but regardless of name, if you can see two yellow or similar coloured, identical, 2 wires originating from under the flywheel- you have a stator, part of the alternator which ultimately charges your batt. You'll need a digital multimeter to first check the stator is able to function. Switch it to "Ohms" and check continuity. Typically it should read less than 1 Ohms of resistance. If there is infinite resistance, the stator winding has broken- useless. If no resistance at all, the windings have shorted to ground- also useless!, there has to be around 0.5ohms. These checks are essential before proceeding. Now, those wires may not be connected to anything, in which case you'll need a bridge rectifier which converts the pulsating AC volts (useless for charging) to a steady DC (which charges!). ALL modern brands of outboard use rectifiers in most of their model line-ups and they cost around A$120 ($US40-50?). The two stator wires are connected to the input terminals of the rectifier which is usually connected to earth via the mounting lugs. The other terminal is your battery charge output. You'll then need to run a 4mm dia wire (cross sectional area of the actual strands of wire in mm- important that it handles plenty of current if need be!), with a 15Amp fuse near the rectifier to protect things. Run this between the positive (+) output terminal of the rectifier to your battery pos terminal- make sure this is correct or you'll be able to fry your eggs with your new rectifier!.<br /> Check the volts output with the engine running (faster the better- on the water of course, NEVER the muffs!), you should expect around 14V, maybe a little more. If its only 12 or so, something's amiss. Check connections, earths and battery condition- low powered alts have a hard time charged dead old batts!.<br />I'm an Auto Electrician so I may not know your motor but there are plenty of talented outboard people here to help with using those numbers.<br />As I said, I'm no hot-shot expert but premium gas is really only needed for highly stressed, big horsepower V6's where detonation may cause worries. <br />50 to 1 oil mix has been pretty standard since the very early 70's I'm certain. If yours is newer, you'll be running that ratio for sure.<br />Try to get a manual too- they really help!<br /><br />Hope this all helps<br />Nilsson
 

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Re: age and adding charging system?

oops, I forgot to mention...<br /><br />Connect the red wire to your battery positive terminal at the stater solenoid!, NOT the actual battery itself- a safety measure to prevent nasty things like shorts, sparks and maybe fires?!- not nice out on the water!<br /><br />good luck, let me know how you got on...<br />nilsson
 

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Re: age and adding charging system?

thanks, I will check that out and let you know the results...<br />Mike
 

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well coming out of the flywheel are 4 wires 2 brown which one has yellow stripe, 1 black 1 white which all go to a black plug that plugs into a simlar plug which goes to a black box which has four wires two which are red...<br /><br />does this help<br /><br />Mike
 

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Re: age and adding charging system?

Hi Mike<br /><br />I'm sorry but you dont seem to have a stator. Those four wires from the flywheel originate from the charge and trigger coils that control spark. Virtually all modern motors use yellow as their primary stator wire colour. Someone has fitted a starter circuit without bothering with the charging- which happens to be the fiddly part. Most small motors have a recoil starter if the batt goes dead so obviously the elec started was fitted as an convienience. <br />I'm no Johnson expert but you'll probably have to remove the flywheel and install a stator- quite expensive, plus the other things I mentioned.<br /><br />all the best<br />Nilsson
 

didineedthat

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Re: age and adding charging system?

well, is the stator the expensive part or is the labor.. and do you use the same flywheel...Will the manual tell all? I do appreciate your help.,<br />I was just hoping I would get lucky..<br />Mike
 
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