an epiphimy

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i was over a girfriends place last nite..she lives in a little apt. above a barber shop in a seedy part of town..<br /><br />across the street is a mexician bar..only open on weekends..it can get rowdy at times an the state police are always there.. <br /><br />well last nite was no exception.. i walked outside ,,to go home...it was loud,, sounded like a live chiaca band... <br /><br />the bar door swung open an out came 2 tuba's,, numerous trrumpets an guitars.. playin' very wildly... <br /><br />soon enuff the cops came... <br /><br />they parked by me at the barber shop.. <br /><br />me & the cops where laughin' & cuttin' them up... the cops were a riot... !!!<br /><br />then the band started marchin' down the street...with a drunkin' mexican followin flowed from the bar.. they were all drunk ,,, fallin' down ,, jumpin' on top of each others backs... <br /><br />i said to the cops,, howed does someone get so drunk..??? the cops just shook their heads... <br /><br />finially, the cops broke it up when they were staggerin' into on commin' traffic..<br /><br />they dispersed,,, they got into there cars an left.. some squweelin' wheels ,, some amost wreckin' just gettin' out the parkin' lot...<br /><br />it was a horrible site...<br /><br />i said the the state cops,,, aren't yous gonna arrest 'em...<br /><br />NAW,,they said... half of 'em don't have ID.. an can't speak english... paper work is just tooo much...<br /><br />then they added ,, when they saw my look of distain & disbelif,,, they won't get far,,, some cop will stop 'em....
 

GodsBeast

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Hey Crab bait, now I'm not blowing on the State boys, I've been there too. Dealing with one drunk can be a pain, dealing with a group of them can be a riot. <br /><br />I think of this often though. I see a lot of vehicles with the "Support Your State Troopers" bumper stickers on them. I laugh because their main function is working Wrecks, and writting tickets, high traffic functions. But that comment they made, is correct. It's usually your locals, the City Police, and Deputies, that handle the problems, that citizens call the Police for. However, I have only seen 2 bumper stickers that said "Support your local Police". Nine times out of ten though, the locals is who you call when you have troubles. <br /><br />It appears you gave the Drunks a good head start before leaving the parking lot yourself. Good Move. Always keep your eyes open, the cops can't get em' all.
 
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The real shame here is:<br /><br />1. "No ID".<br /><br />2. "Can't speak english".<br /><br />I can excuse #2, for a while.<br /><br />No excuse for #1.
 

OBJ

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Re: an epiphimy

Crab Bait...what tha' hell does "epiphimy" mean?? Shoot...I can't even say it!! :confused: :confused:
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Thats says a lot for the state troopers for knowingly letting drunk drivers hit the road in a car.<br /><br />Might be their kids or wife they hit and kill, or mine.<br />Just really
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bubbakat

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crabbait come down and ride with me some friday or saturdat night and see all the fun i have when the bars close.<br />have been known to take as many as 15 in for that<br />as for the id when he sobers up he'll give me some sort of id or he won't get out of jail<br />don't like drunk drivers ain't and won't be never no excuse for it'<br />well I fell better now thats over with.<br />
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Main Entry: epiph·a·ny<br />Pronunciation: i-'pi-f&-nE<br />Function: noun<br />Inflected Form(s): plural -nies <br />Etymology: Middle English epiphanie, from Middle French, from Late Latin epiphania, from Late Greek, plural, probably alteration of Greek epiphaneia appearance, manifestation, from epiphainein to manifest, from epi- + phainein to show —more at FANCY <br />Date: 14th century<br />1 : capitalized : January 6 observed as a church festival in commemoration of the coming of the Magi as the first manifestation of Christ to the Gentiles or in the Eastern Church in commemoration of the baptism of Christ <br />2 : an appearance or manifestation especially of a divine being <br />3 a (1) : a usually sudden manifestation or perception of the essential nature or meaning of something (2) : an intuitive grasp of reality through something (as an event) usually simple and striking (3) : an illuminating discovery b : a revealing scene or moment <br /><br />its also that thing you think of when you are so **** baked out of your brain that you are seeing aztec ruins, and its brilliant, brilliant BRILLIANT ... til the next day, and when you find the note to yourself, lol, boy was I a dumazz last night ...<br /><br />why you think they say it bud WISER???<br /><br /> :p :p
 

Allen Henry

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PLEASE, Don't put all State Troopers in the same boat. That would not have happened here for the simple fact that SBN brought up, that could be my family or yours that the drunk meets on the roadway next. Here in Oklahoma we work alot of collisions, but that is not our main function. We are charged with many duties but above all is public safety (as corny as it may sound) and we take it seriously. As far as I'm concerned, whether you work for a local PD, sheriff's dept. or at the state or even federal level, we are all on the same team working towards the same objective. ;) <br /><br />TRP251
 

GodsBeast

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Bubbakat, 15 in one night is real good. I salute you! The state of Louisiana came out with this new and easier 10 page DWI report form. My first one took me 4 frickin hours to get through. The state also came out with a new and improved Crash report. The old one was a easy Front and Back simple report. Now a simple fender bender is at least 4 pages. If you have to add suppliment sheets, it can turn into a short book. So much for new and improved. I will say our State Troopers are on the ball for DWI investigation, which leaves us locals free to handle Bar Room brawls, Domestic Disturbances, Thefts, Parish and City Ordances, Federal & State Laws, etc. <br /><br />Trooper251, I also feel all Law Enforcement are trying to reach the same objective. I apoligise if I gave the wrong impression. Hopefully you may understand that some departments at times have strong points and weak points. For instance:<br />I have seen a local Sheriff's Deputy, call for a trooper to work a crash that he could have worked in the time it took for a Trooper to drive from 3 Parish's to work the Crash he was called for. Our City, has a Captain, that would have a cow before he'd let us pass a Crash in our jurisdiction onto a trooper, or Deputy, unless of course the Crash involved one of us. <br /><br />I understand that Our Trooper's also have many seperate departments, Bomb Squad, SWAT, Bank Robberies, Casino Investigations, etc. The one's we most come into contact with (as well as the majority of the Public) are Uniformed Highway Patrol. I also know they have many duties, but between our agencies, they have more training and have more funding to handle Highway situations, such as Crashes, Traffic Tickets, DWI's, and of Course Highway Drug Trafficing. Our Local agencies usually combine (1) or (2) from each agency to combine a task force to work Narcotics on the Highway (within their jurisdictions) as well as pool resources to help each other with problems within the cooperating agencies. <br /><br />Even though we rib each other back and forth, and I heard some petty remarks, at times. We are all there for each other! A call for help will not only be answered by anyone on duty, I and others have got out of bed to assist a call for help!<br /><br />The bumber sticker remark was just something that amuses me and others at times. I know in some States, the Troopers, or Highway Patrol, still handle calls for Domestics. In this area of the State of Louisiana, Troopers are not dispatched to a Domestic, etc. They will, however come to back us up, if they hear the call, as well as we will back them up, if we know about them being on a traffic stop out in the middle of nowhere. They are spread pretty thin! The problem we have of backing them up, is they are on their own radio frequency, if we don't spot their lights flashing, we have to get a phone call from their dispatcher, to ours, requesting us to check on them. Again their updated communication has not tricked down to us so far as funding. <br /><br />So far as my comment about I've been there, this city has 8 bar rooms within a 2 square mile radius. 3 Bar rooms within 2 blocks that can have 3 to 5 hundred people combinded within them. Now at 2am when the bars close, we have 1 Sergeant and 2 Officers on duty at that time. There is no way to catch them all, and if a fight breaks out, back up will come. There will be a Maximum of 5 deputies on duty in the Parish (if no one is sick or on vacation) 2 or 3 troopers which are not only assigned to this parish but 3 parishes at the time. Two other local city agencies close by with 1 officer each. So combine all that 13 Officers handeling 3 to 5 hundred people (now that just for 3 of the Bar rooms, not all 8) that is not good odds, and sorry folks, some drunks are going to get past us. <br /><br />Crab bait, there is no way of knowing if those two troopers that were there with you that night, were in charge of handeling up to 3 or 4 counties, and had handeling the lesser of evils going through their mind at the time. Most guys that wear the badge have good intentions, that years of service makes them make unpopular decisions in spit seconds, that others sit around and debate, without the knowledge of everything else that was happening at the same time that night, that they too were responsible for, or faced with acountability when anything went sour.<br /><br />Crab bait, here is a hint, most cops are at their best humor, when they are trying to hide their fear of something they know can get out of hand, quickly.<br /><br />So all, the best way I can say it is, even though we are earning a living, most are not in it for just the money, sometimes you just have to have a little faith that we are doing the best we can, with the best interest's of the majority in mind.<br /><br />Just one of GodsBeast's
 

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Here in my county we have a great forum with our troopers.<br />We assist each other in every event we can. We monitor each others radio channels the only time anything is passed on to a trooper is when it needs to be reconstructed. T hen the trooper has the best knowledge and equip. for that. I have had troopers show up at a domestic at 2 am in the morn for my back up Hats off to the troopers and city and all who wear a badge.<br /> three things get me riled and thats a man or woman or teenager creating violence in the home and drunk drivers and kids not buckled in.
 

mikeandronda

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I aplaud each and every law man on this board. You guys have a tough job. In my earlier days I was on the wrong side of the law, but alas hindsight is 20/20 and now I cant believe how much restraint it must of taken to not clean my clock from some of the police men I have delt with :) It takes a special breed of men to deal with the crap that you guys do. Keep up the good work guys. somebody has too.
 

KennyKenCan

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The State troopers that let those people drive away drunk should all be fired!<br /><br />They collect wages that are provided by taxpayers and those officers were not doing their job, saying that "another cop will get 'em", or, "theres too much paper work to arrest them"!<br /><br />Thats the problem in this country, those who are suppose to "uphold the law", don't, because its too much work.<br /><br />Shame on those officers.<br /><br />Kenny
 

LadyFish

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I appreciate all that our law enforcement officers to for us every day and know they are WAY UNDERPAID for putting their lives at risk, however I agree 100% with you Kenny.
 

fishhunter911

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and this happened in DELAWARE?????? please tel me it was Delaware, Ohio and not DELAWARE State. Lemme tell ya somethin.. if this happened PLEASE let me know as I have the proper contacts to have those officers taken off the street. Where in DE did this happen????
 

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I am not sure what the reason was for the State Troopers not stopping som of those people. I could see them worrying that they would cause a riot and not have enough backup. We have a lot more to worry about in the future with the cutbacks and the financial problems a lot of the states are in.<br /><br />There are good officers out there and bad officers out there like any other profession. All of them are underpaid. When our town was looking at the possibility of disbanding the local police and paying the county to have an officer, I learned that our officers were paid $27,000. Not much for putting your life on the line.<br />I called in a drunk a couple years back after he crossed the centerline and missed hitting a van head on. We just happened to pass a parked county sheriff who stopped the extremely drunk person and arrested him before he could kill someone else. <br /><br />I wish there was a sheriff or Trooper or any other law enforcement official around when the drunk driver who killed my Niece was on the road. He killed 3 other 19 to 21 year olds that night when he got on a highway the wrong way and hit another car head on. He was the only one to survive the crash. It is not law enforcements fault, they catch a lot of drunks and I appreciate that they make it so no on has to go through that like we did. There were 2,000 people that came to her visitation all because of one person's bad decision. To this day the driver denies he was at the wheel even though my dead niece was still strapped into her seat when the police arrived and he was the only other one in her car.<br /><br />My point here is that any one of those peole from the bar that were obviouly drunk could have caused an accident and killed innocent people. If witnessed by the police, they should have at least stopped a few of them when they were on the road down the street.
 

Allen Henry

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Godsbeast, I understand exactly where you're coming from. Nation wide law enforcement agencies are short handed and you are exactly right each agency or department does have their specialties. The police departments and sheriff's departments are more adequate at working domestics, rape cases and so forth, because they deal with them more frequently than I. That's why it takes all of us working together. Most times I cover two to three counties by my self and the closest back-up can be several miles away, but I can rest assured that if I request back-up everyone within ear shot will be en-route. We are in the same boat as ya'll when it comes to communication. We are on a different system than the other agencies in the state, which can screw things up at times. But like you say, we do the best we can with what we are provided with.<br /><br />stay safe,<br />TRP251
 

GodsBeast

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Amen Trooper251, we are in pursuit :D of the same thought pattern! <br /><br />Watch your back! <br /><br />GodsBeast (PA-16) Ken Bates
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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I think that cops that hang out at bars waiting to nail someone as they drive home totally freaking SUCK, its a cheap and easy way to rack up the ol quota<br /><br />sorry guys, your job sucks and I for one wouldnt have the guts to constantly go up to a dark car at 4 AM and possibly get my brains blown out ... but that wait for drunks to go rolling home is a real scumbag tactic, if you want to be PUBLIC SERVANTS rather than revenue producers (get nabbed for drunk driving, its a cash cow, and I bet the cops get a kickback from the insurance companies) go into the bar that you are LURKING in the shadow of, and if someone is drunk, call a cab for em, or dump em in the back of the cruiser and take em home<br /><br />oh but thats a waste of time, they have BETTER things to do than taxi drunks around ...<br /><br />... like wait in the parking lot, to rack some slob out of 5 grand or so over a couple of beers<br /><br />its sneaky, lowlife and tacky, sort of like dumping a few tons of apples and nice salty potato chips, and sitting in a tree with a .460 Weatherby Magnum, and wait for a herd of deer to congregate<br /><br /> :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: <br /><br />(no, I dont drink and drive and Ive never lost someone to a drunk driver, I just think if they have time to kill an hour in the parking lot waiting, they could go in, and call a cab for someone thats drunk, its the underhanded nature of it all that totally p!sses me off, GRRRRRRRRR.... the nature of americans is to perceive police as our tax dollar provided guardian angels ... they are revenue producers, a good chunk of township money comes from the cops writing tickets, thats their REAL job, and a taproom full of drunks is a money tree waiting to be shaken)
 

Allen Henry

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castaway, <br /><br />I don't get a penny from any ticket I write. My department gets one dollar to go into a fund for equipment replacement (cars) and the rest goes to the courts. We do not have a quota, they let us write as many as we want. <br /><br />As far as hanging around the bars and waiting, I have never done that. I have however worked an area where a bar or bars are located. The main reason is due to the higher collision rate in the area, usually attributed to the drunk driver. There are drinkers that you could not help if you offered them all the taxi's in the world because they don't believe they are drunk and will still be denying it after it has been proven with the state's test. If I were to go into a bar and call a taxi for this individual and force him to take it home, he would scream about his civil rights being violated not to mention the liability I would be risking if he should get home and get in another car and kill or hurt somebody. <br /><br />In today's society he may even sew me for letting him go and not taking him to jail in order to through the blame on me for him killing someone else. In the end, I'm just doing the job I was hired and trained to do. I did not get them drunk and put them behind the wheel they did it to themselves.<br /><br />It's all a matter of perspective isn't it? It may appear we are costing those who drink and drive all those thousands of dollars; but it was their choice to drink and drive.<br /><br />TRP251
 
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