Any advice on a starting battery and rectifier/regulator for a 1990 Force 120HP

gica

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I had a stator fail on one of my twin 120HP. I have a Sea 7650 Add-A-Battery System with ACR and Battery Switch and a AGM battery for stater and a deep cycle for accessories. I was told the AGM is not recommended for the CDI stater. Stater measure 0.5V DVA and open resistance, brown/yellows and brown/blues to ground 3.5V so not per specs. Stator is done even though it is new.
What lead acid battery is good and what rectifier that also has a regulator. The cheap Chinas on Amazon don't last.
 

gica

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Ok I opened up the flywheel and it seems on the back side I don't know what it's called but there are metal strips stacked together and some were pulled off and they broke the trigger housing, and I guess the stator is also not good anymore even though there is no physical damage to it.
Can the stator and triggers be tested off the motor?
I already got another used CDI stator it measures 300 ohms between lines.
It should be good but the trigger is done. That thing is so expensive I so it for 400 to 500 new.
I do have 2 older triggers that all measure 53 to 55 ohms between each pair and there are 8 of them.
Below is the Dropbox with the damaged pictures.

 

jerryjerry05

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What I used: twin batteries both the same size.
Minimum 450cca. I used 650 or 800cca even 1000cca.
The bigger the longer they last when the boat has lots of 12v accessories
#4 or #2 wire with good copper connectors.


Using a deep cycle battery on an outboard can potentially cause issues with the charging system if not managed carefully, but it's not a guaranteed problem. Deep cycle batteries are designed for sustained power delivery, not the high current bursts needed for starting. Using them to start an engine frequently can lead to premature wear and potential damage over time. Additionally, some deep cycle batteries require specific charging profiles (like AGM batteries requiring 15V) that standard outboard charging systems might not provide, potentially leading to incomplete charging.

  • Damage to charging system:
    In extreme cases, the high current draw from a deep cycle battery during engine start, combined with inadequate charging, could potentially stress or damage the outboard's charging system, especially if the battery is significantly discharged before starting.
When it's more likely to be a problem:
  • Cold weather starting:
    Deep cycle batteries generally have lower cold cranking amps (CCA) than dedicated starting batteries, making them less suitable for starting in cold conditions.

  • Frequent engine starts:
    Repeatedly using a deep cycle battery to start a cold engine can put a strain on both the battery and the charging system.

  • Incompatible battery types:
    If the deep cycle battery is not designed for marine use or doesn't have proper charging characteristics for the outboard's system, it could lead to problems.
Recommendations:
  • Use a dual-purpose battery:
    If you need a battery that can handle both starting and deep cycle loads, consider a dual-purpose marine battery designed for both purposes.
 
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