Any choke on this panel control box?

sweetmarie

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My son in law recently bought a 2004 Stingray with a 135 hp mercruiser alpha one engine. He's wondering if there's any choke system on his control box or on the dash or do these engine run an automatic choke system? He's a newbie and I'm nowhere near him right now. I'm more knowledgeable with outboards than I/O.

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Bt Doctur

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

No choke per se, but the control handel can be throttle only for starting and warm up. would need to know the fuel system for more info.
 

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

Turn key (dont start) on push throttle all the way forward once then back to 12 oclock position (this sets choke) then start motor, may have to do once or twice if motor has set for awhile.
 

sweetmarie

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

Thanks a lot guys. Just spoke with him, doesn't think his key was on when he pushed the throttle down. I imagine it's an eletric choke and power must be on for it to activate. Does the heat of the exhaust turn the choke off like a car engine, I would imagine. He's going to try and fire it up with the water ears.
 

sweetmarie

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

Ok, so one says no choke and other says this how to set choke??? I'm not a mechanic by trade but have some engine experience. Starting a cold engine needs some sort of fuel enrichment system, be it a mechanical butterfly turned sideways to enrichen the fuel/air mixture or some sort of fuel primer to get the same effect. So, what does lowering the lever down do the mechanics of the carburator.
BTW, my son in law had carburator kit changed and engine is running good now.
I'm just trying to understand and learn the operation of this merc system.
 

Don S

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

That engine should have the TKS carb, which doesn't have a choke. It has a primer system, similar to outboards. that is automatic.
The engine should start in neutral if the TKS is working properly.
 

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

Ok, so one says no choke and other says this how to set choke??? I'm not a mechanic by trade but have some engine experience. Starting a cold engine needs some sort of fuel enrichment system, be it a mechanical butterfly turned sideways to enrichen the fuel/air mixture or some sort of fuel primer to get the same effect. So, what does lowering the lever down do the mechanics of the carburator.
BTW, my son in law had carburator kit changed and engine is running good now.
I'm just trying to understand and learn the operation of this merc system.

Ayuh,... If it's an electric choke...
Advancing the throttle to wot, sets the choke for cold starting...
Mechanically,...
The electric element then warms the mechanism to release it...
 

Don S

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Re: Any choke on this panel control box?

The below information is a copy and paste from the TKS service manual, and explains how and why it works.


Turn Key Start: Theory of Operation


The TKS system has been added to carbureted engines to:
? Provide additional fuel to air mixture when starting a cold engine. Idle speed is slightly
increased by supplying the additional fuel / air mixture required to start a cold engine.
? Prevent enrichment when starting a warm engine.

COMPONENTS
1. The TKS carburetor casting allows starting fuel to be drawn from the float bowl and
mixed with air in a chamber. This enriched mixture is drawn into the engine through an
opening in the carburetor body below the throttle plate.
2. The TKS module mounted to the carburetor. When 12V DC is applied, the TKS module
will warm internally, causing a plunger to extend from the module and close the
enrichment fuel air passage in the TKS carburetor.
3. On 3.0L engines, an oil pressure switchprovides a ground (-) path for the TKS module.
Positive (+) voltage is continuously supplied through a 20 amp fuse directly from the
engine circuit breaker.
4. On V-6 and V-8 engines an existing oil pressure switch provides 12V positive (+)
voltage to the TKS module. Ground for the TKS module is continuously supplied.

TKS SYSTEM OPERATION
The TKS Carburetor assembly provides precise fuel and air delivery during startup for all
temperature conditions. An electrothermal valve, the TKS module, is installed on the
carburetor assembly.
Before startup and according to ambient temperature, the TKS Module brass sleeve
retracts, and the enrichment fuel and air valve is opened.
The TKS fuel / air passage is normally open, allowing fuel enrichment mixture through the
carburetor continuously, unless the passage is blocked by the plunger of the TKS module.
With the key switch in the start position, the vacuum of the engine pulls the enrichment fuel
and air into the intake manifold.This starts an electrical warming of the module.
With the circuit completed, the electrothermal TKS module brass plunger extends to block
the enrichment passage.
Once the TKS module brass sleeve is fully extended, the enrichment fuel and valve are
fully closed, and enrichment stops.
In order to keep the TKS module warming and the starting channel in the carburetor closed
when engine is warm a second circuit has been added. For additional information, see the
"Typical Starting System Components" in Section 4A for your particular engine type.

TKS Starting Characteristics
On 3.0 L models - If the engine has not run for a long period of time, it might require a
couple of attempts while the fuel bowl refills. Once the engine has started, it will idle at
700-900 RPM.
On 4.3 L, 5.0 L, and 5.7L models - If the engine has not run for a long period of time, it
might require a couple of attempts while the fuel bowl refills. Once the engine is started, it
will idle around 650 to 700 RPM in idle stabilization mode. If the idle exceeds 700 RPM,
the ECM adds spark, thinking that the operator is trying to accelerate, which could cause
the engine to idle at 700-900 RPM. After the TKS module has shut off the enrichment circuit,
the carburetor will function like a standard carburetor. If the engine is out of idle stabilization
mode, (engine below 700 RPM), you will hear and feel a slight drop in RPM. After the TKS
module has shut off the enrichment passage, the carburetor will function like a standard
carburetor.
 
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