Any info about Reinell 28 footers?

[3boyzz]

I've been lurking in the shadows for a while, and now I have my first big question. I'm looking to add a second boat. I currently have a 19' aluminum cuddy that works great for me and my two sons, 8 and 10. I live on a inland lake and want to keep my current boat for fishing and playing on my "home" lake. I am looking for a bigger boat to take to the saltwater on the west coast of Washington, I live on the east side of the state, and I also want to take it to take to some of the bigger inland lakes. My other requirement for the new boat is for livability. My girlfriend lives in Olympia, WA 2-4 months a year. The plan is for her to use the new boat for her home while over there instead of renting. She is there only during the week and basically would just sleep on it.<br /><br />It has taken me a long time to get to the point, but I would like any info anyone has on a boat we are looking at. It is a 1976 28' Reinell with a flying bridge. It has been totally redone on the inside the last two years, carpet, upholstery, countertops, curtains, etc. It looks almost brand new on the inside. The outside has fewer scratches than my 1994, a lot less!! It has twin inline 6s with merc i/os. It surprised me how it scoots, 54 mph on the gps. The motors and drives were rebuilt 300 hrs ago and seemed very strong and tight. I like the layout of the Reinell, very light, very open, which will be important for someone to be on it for two months!! It also is small enough for me to tow back and forth over the cascades with my current truck.<br /><br />Specific questions.....<br /><br />1.The freshwater cooling system was removed when it leaked. How hard and more importantly, how much would it cost to put in a new one?<br /><br />2.The marine toilet dumps directly overboard. The current owners use a porta potty to get around that problem. It has room in the engine compartment for a holding tank for the toilet. How big of a tank do I need? Do I need a macerator?<br /><br />3.It has a 110/engine hot water heater and cabin heater that also runs off the engine. The fresh water tank is 20 gals. How much water is needed for 5-7 day cruise on the ocean?<br /><br />4.Does anyone have any experience with these boats? It seems very tight, amazingly clean, has a galvanized double axle trailer and they want $12,900. What do you think? Is it worth it?<br /><br />Thanks for any and all help. I look forward to being part of this board.

 

[Solittle]

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Don't under estimate what it takes to tow a rig that big. I had a 27 1/2' flybridge with a triple axle trailer & it scared the crap out of me pulling it in the flatlands of south Florida.<br /><br />Price seems OK if in great condition. I would have the engines & outdrives checked by a pro no matter what the owner says about 300 hours since rebuild.

 

[3boyzz]

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Anyone???

 

[jtsmlarson]

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3boyzz:<br /><br />Freshwater cooling typically runs about $600 for the parts, per engine. It's something you can do if you are somewhat mechanical. It could be double to have someone like Trudeaus's add them. If you intend to run them in saltwater, it might be worth considering. Typically more than 100 hours in salt and it's too late. The anti freeze and salt deposits left behind form a jello like substance that gums up your cooling system.<br /><br />I would put in the biggest tank you have room for. Try to keep the tank run from the toilet downhill and less than six feet if possible. I think it's something like 2 gals/per person per day? That's a VERY rough estimate and depends more on the type of toilet (i.e. amount of water used per flush.) It's illegal to dump overboard until your offshore a certain distance and that's what the macerator is used for. If you will be pumping out dockside, you can bypass the macerator all together. The Coast Guard has gotten pretty particular about making sure you don't accidentally dump and your system has to be approved so that it can't accidentally discharge overboard without manipulating valves/circuit breakers etc.<br /><br />Twenty gallons is pretty standard for freshwater tanks, but it depends on how much you use. My 20 gallon tank typically last 4 days depending on what we cook and how much is used to wash dishes. Most fuel docks have freshwater, just make sure it's not the same hose used to flush your icky holding tanks! You DON'T want that hose filling your freshwater system!<br /><br />I've always loved the look of the old Reinell with the huge windows and flybridge! When I was looking, my Admiral thought it was too old and didn't want something that needing updating inside. I'm amazed at the speed with the twin six's! <br /><br />If you are towing it over Snoqualmie Pass, make sure you've got the right tow vehicle. A boat that size with twins and trailer could easily weight in the 11,000 to 14,000 lb range!<br /><br />The price seems reasonable, but you can always check the value using Buc or NADA online. The Nada price is usually lower than the Buc value, which is what the boat dealers and banks use for the loan value. You bank, or one of the local dealers can help you determine the value.<br /><br />Good luck with your decision!

 

[Topmason]

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54 mph from a 28 footer with twin six's??<br />Does anyone else think this is hard to believe?<br />I hope it is correct, but just seems a bit much.

 

[Topmason]

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[ratherbefishin]

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Reinel didn't have a great reputation for high quality-if I remember correctly they were all chop glass construction, but I believe the 28' model was built by another company and was more highly reguarded.<br /> That said- it would be interesting to review the ''chop glass vs laid up hulls '' to see how they stood the test of time.Sometimes a reputation, good or bad didn't stand up to the test of time.

 

[3boyzz]

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Topmason...<br /><br />I wouldn't have believed it either, but it was checked by gps and yes I made sure it was reading mph and not kph!! Actually after thinking about it, I can believe it. My current 19' goes 37 mph with a 3.0 4 cylinder. It has an eight foot beam. The Reinell is also an eight foot beam, but has two inline sixes. More than double the horsepower, two props, same beam and eight more feet in length.<br /><br />Thanks for the info, I'm picking it up tomorrow.<br /><br />Jtmslarson, what boat do you have? You're the first local guy I've seen on this board.<br /><br />Oh, anyone looking for a 1994 Starcraft Islander 191? I have one for sale now!!

 

[jtsmlarson]

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I've got a 1987 25' Sea Ray Sundancer. Trudeau's had done all the work on it since it was new and it was immaculate. We scheduled it's first tune-up at the 200 hour mark when we bought it in 2000. It still had the original plugs and wires, dist cap and rotor! It's been a great boat. The original owner fished and always used the trolling motor instead of the 454 Magnum! We moved up from the 1987 Bayliner Cuddy that we owned since it was brand new. The four of us, plus the dog just didn't fit! We tow it each weekend to a different lake because I don't think I'd be happy mooring it somewhere and being stuck in one lake all Summer long! Then I'd have to clean the bottom too! Yuck! The neighbor across the street moors his at Rockford Bay on Lake CDA and has a green seaweed to clean off each September. I'll pass on that!<br /><br />I've been reading Trailer Boat magazine since 1987 and watching this board for a long time. The other site I frequent it BoaterEd.com. That's a great place to get help as well. Those guys really know there stuff. Once in a while I'll see someone else on here from CDA or somewhere in Eastern Washington. A duo prop guy from Walla Walla, or was that another forum?? <br /><br />As for the chopped versus laid up fiberglass, I wouldn't get to excited about that either. I've had both and being well cared for is the most important thing. I've never seen either type fail and both types are common around here. Come to think of it, I've never seen any boat fail? I guess when they get to that point, they don't make it to the water anymore! <br /><br />I'm helping some friends look for a boat, I'll mention the Islander. They are looking for a light cuddy. The max trailer they can handle is 3,500 and that's pushing it! They are going to tow it behind a Honday Odyssey. I've volunteered to move it to Priest Lake for them in exchange for some dockspace occasionally! Any idea what it weighs on the trailer? Asking price?

 

[3boyzz]

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Jtsmlarson, sounds like you had a grat deal!! Thanks for offering to help me sell my boat!!<br />Here's a link to Starcraft. http://www.starcraftmarine.com/aluminum/isl19103.htm <br />The weight is listed att 3300, mine would be heavier. It has dual batts and a 2000 15 hp Tohatsu 4 stroke. It also has a great stereo, remote electronic throttle on the kicker, teak swim platform and will have a year old portapotti go with it. It is set up for fishing, sleeps two adults or me and by two sons, eight and ten. It cruises around 30-35 gps, and has a 38 gallon tank. I've gone over 130 miles on a tank, by gps. It is listed for around $11,000 on buc books without the kicker. I'd like to get $11,500.<br /><br />I totally agree with you about going to different lakes. I have a secondary lot on Newman, so I do keep it in the water a lot though, usually during the spring and fall. During the summer I usually leave it out because I'm gone to a different lake for a few days every other week or so.

 

[Chickidee]

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WOW, wish I had known this forum was here a while ago. In the spring of '07 I bought a '81 Reinell cuddy cabin 28 ft.trailer included, as a project boat and have had nothing but dead ends on restoring it. I have been looking for any pics, manuals, anything to give me an idea of what is going on with this boat. As I am no expert, I'm alittle lost. The preveous owner installed a new engine himself and thought he had "blown it up" when it overheated and shut down. We have replaced all seals in and out (water in the oil) and the only problem was a cracked manifold. She purrrs like a kitten. The inside is rough and I am starting to restore. If anyone has old ads, manuals anything that would be of help. It had old reminents (ruined) of a canvas cover but I have no idea of how it was supported or looked. Wish me luck, I'm gonna need it!!!