Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

Status
Not open for further replies.

ezbtr

Captain
Joined
May 1, 2002
Messages
3,094
One of the customers asked me, is it possible to do in shipping environemnt? We have lots of RF, wireless around here, cell reception is really bad, but we'd like to get truckers to not be able to use/jam cell signals. Then again, I'm thinkin, it would jam my cell too! Sounds undoable or illegal..hmmmm, any thoughts? Thanks
 
Joined
Sep 5, 2007
Messages
1,790
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

There are devices available that will jam cell phone signals. Even though they are illegal they still are used in some places where its better to just jam them than contantly be bothered with them. Can be ordered on the net and prices vary.
 

Adjuster

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Aug 27, 2008
Messages
233
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

I don't think it is illegal??? Some movie theaters are now doing it. You can jam what ever you want on your own property.
 

Gary H NC

Fleet Admiral
Joined
Dec 1, 2005
Messages
8,972
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

The Cell jammers you see online work only in a small area.
How are the truckers bothering your cell signal?
 

45Auto

Commander
Joined
May 31, 2002
Messages
2,842
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

You can legally jam whatever you want on your own property just like you can legally keep airliners from flying over it. In other words, NO. Try jamming some police, homeland security, or airport radar frequencys on your property and you'll probably find out just how legal it is.

In the United States, cell-phone jamming is covered under the Communications Act of 1934, which prohibits people from "willfully or maliciously interfering with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized" to operate. In fact, the "manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited" as well.
Jamming is seen as property theft, because a private company has purchased the rights to the radio spectrum, and jamming the spectrum is akin to stealing the property the company has purchased. It also represents a safety hazard because jamming blocks all calls in the area, not just the annoying ones. Jamming a signal could block the call of a babysitter frantically trying to contact a parent or a someone trying to call for an ambulance.

The Federal Communications Commission is charged with enforcing jamming laws. However, the agency has not yet prosecuted anyone for cell-phone jamming. Under the U.S. rules, fines for a first offense can range as high as $11,000 for each violation or imprisonment for up to one year, and the device used may also be seized and forfeited to the government.

This is from the "Terms and Conditions" from a cell phone jammersite that sells jammers:

http://www.phonejammer.com/

________________________

The use of cellular telephone jamming equipment is prohibited in some countries. It is the responsibility of the customer to ensure that they have the legal right to import these products before purchasing from us. Upon purchasing, the customer becomes wholly liable for any legal issues that may occur as a result of the importation and/or use of these products in the destination country.

a. Phone jammers are not marketed for sale for use in the US and/or to any customers residing within US jurisdiction.

_________________________

Just because nobody's been prosecuted for it yet doesn't mean it's legal. It'll probably be pretty painful financially if you do manage to attract enough attention to get prosecuted!
 

CATransplant

Admiral
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
6,319
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

Absolutely illegal. It is legal to passively screen out RF signals inside a building, using a Faraday cage system, but that ain't working on a 110 acre property.

Why do you want to jam cell phones in a trucking yard? Truckers use them for all sorts of reasons, including keeping in touch with their companies. I don't get it.
 

ezbtr

Captain
Joined
May 1, 2002
Messages
3,094
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

The rule is, no cell phone use while driving in port terminal, it's way too dangerous and we dont want a trucker on the phone while driving, I'll post some pics , Thanks guys.
 

Attachments

  • ATT00001.jpg
    ATT00001.jpg
    19.8 KB · Views: 0

jlinder

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
1,086
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

This is from the "Terms and Conditions" from a cell phone jammersite that sells jammers:

http://www.phonejammer.com/

Great example of how people accept what they read on the web without questioning.

The site talks about using the jammer to prevent cell phone use in hospitals, oil refineries or where explosives are being used.

I thought the reason you don't use radios in these areas is that radio signals may cause problems with diagnostic equipment, sparks that cause explosions, or trigger detonators.

If a cell phone sending out RF signals can do this why wouldn't the jammer and it's RF signal do the same thing?
 
Joined
Sep 5, 2007
Messages
1,790
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

Since when is anything we do with cell phones a matter of concern anyway? The cops dont enforse the laws that affect them now. Like the new law in our state that says anyone under 18 CAN NOT use one while driving. DUH! what a joke cause its not being enforsed. I think using one at all while driving should be banned. As far as jamming I think that any microwaves that someone else puts on my private property belong to me and if I want to jam them, use them, or just get cancer from them it is my beeesnusss!
 

PierBridge

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Sep 3, 2004
Messages
625
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

The rule is, no cell phone use while driving in port terminal, it's way too dangerous and we dont want a trucker on the phone while driving, I'll post some pics , Thanks guys.


I would think it would be far more dangerous to block the cell phone signal. Having truckers distracted because their cell phones were not working would cause way more problems then if you just let be.
 

45Auto

Commander
Joined
May 31, 2002
Messages
2,842
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

Great example of how people accept what they read on the web without questioning.

Wasn't a matter of accepting what they said without question. Just pointing out that the people that sell them are careful to specify that they are illegal in some countries (USA included). If you're stupid enough to use them without knowing the law or weighing the consequences more power to you! :) :) They won't be guilty of anything, it's not illegal for them to sell them to you, it's just illegal for you to use them!
 

Ret USN CPO

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Sep 7, 2007
Messages
135
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

I would think it would be far more dangerous to block the cell phone signal. Having truckers distracted because their cell phones were not working would cause way more problems then if you just let be.

That's what I was thinking. Don't you have a security contractor? Any reason they couldn't confiscate the phones when entering your facility? Any reason they couldn't enforce your regulations by patrolling and issuing citations/confiscating offenders equipment? There are always more than one way to skin a cat.
 

avenger79

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
May 5, 2008
Messages
1,792
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

just out of curiosity, how many wrecks have you had that were caused by truckers on the phone?
 

mscher

Lieutenant
Joined
Apr 21, 2004
Messages
1,424
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

A better idea would be to have a "security" person escort each driver.

In addtion to cell phone use, they could also monitor map reading, sandwich making, soda opening, CB chatting, nose picking, butt scratching/underwear adjustment, radio adjusting, logbook updating and the many other things drivers do 11 hours a day, while rolling.

After all the maximum speed limit for the terminal is probably 20MPH. ;)
 

jlinder

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Jul 5, 2004
Messages
1,086
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

Wasn't a matter of accepting what they said without question. Just pointing out that the people that sell them are careful to specify that they are illegal in some countries (USA included). If you're stupid enough to use them without knowing the law or weighing the consequences more power to you! :) :) They won't be guilty of anything, it's not illegal for them to sell them to you, it's just illegal for you to use them!

Sorry - I wasn't questioning what you were talking about.

My comment was aimed at what I found in the web site. They were promoting the boxes for uses that would cause more problems than the cell phones they were blocking
 

Uraijit

Banned
Joined
Feb 5, 2008
Messages
884
Re: Any way to jam cell phone/bluetooth signals in a 110 acre facility?

You can jam what ever you want on your own property.

Guess again. The movie theatres that were actively jamming, were forced to stop, by the FCC. As was mentioned, you can passively BLOCK signals from entering a place with screens, but sending out a signal to interfere with another signal, is very much illegal.

There's not much that you CAN do on your "own property", without first getting permission from the powers that be.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top