Are you angry about the ilegals invading America?

[12Footer]

How about these marches and protests?<br />Do you want to make a point about amnesty for criminals?<br />Do you want to protest the protestors?<br />Do you feel ,if our law absolutely must be broken, it might soon include speeders and drug dealers? <br />Should it be Ok to break the law for everyone equally?<br />Do you wish there was a rally YOU could attend to show your disdain for these invaders wiping their bums upon your constitution?<br />Would you attend such a rally, but you werk, and unlike them, your job is more important to you?<br />Then do something about it! Join the "C.A.R.L. March"!...If not in person, in spirit!<br />here is a link to the genisis of this rally:

 

[rodbolt]

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wow and this from a rehub, why should I be angry at the illegals, this administration and the previous 5 did everything but send them buss fare to get here.<br /> yes it ticks me off that some uppity illegal wants more than 3 bux an hour and a lunch but ya gotta admit Bush,and the rest, did absolutly nothing but widen the red carpet.<br />I am sick of Jr and his mealies hollering about clinton and bush senior, when you assume the watch in the navy you make the first round with the offgoing watch, then you sign a log and are properly relieved. just like Jr did between nov of 00 and jan 01. once you sign the logbook and have assumed the watch its your watch and if someone left a door open its you thats gonna fry unless that was noted with the OOD at the time of assuming the watch and properly guarded.<br /> Bush assumed the watch, as CIC he is ultimatly responsible, at the end of the day its him.<br />so far we are over 6 years into it and in worse shape than most anyother point in recent history.

 

[12Footer]

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> wow and this from a rehub, why should I be angry at the illegals, this administration and the previous 5 did everything but send them buss fare to get here.

<br /><br />You should be upset because be you a dumb-o-crap or a rehub, the invasion is real, and the fact that it is illegal is the one issue that you MUST not tolerate. This is not a political thing, outside of shameless, greedy, bottom-feeders using the issue to prop-up their useless voter bases or buisnesses.<br />It should highly upset you. What bothers me is that it doesn't seem to, or that in your eyes, "it's Bush's fault".<br />That's simply too "trollish" to make coment upon!<br /><br />Personally, I am very concerned that laws are not only being broken here, but that the law breakers have the onions to say "yes, i am an ilegal alien. now legalise me." My reaction would be the same regardless of the laws broken by them. For instance, if this was the membership of "NAMBLA" waving signs to make their deviant behaviour legal too, i would be just as "stirred-up" over it.<br />Futhermore, I equate it to an invasion of any other kind, whether the nationalists are Russians, Korians, or Cubans or Mexicans!It would the same type of invasion.<br />We (the listeners to the "Daybreak" Radio show had concieved the idea of a protest, the same day planned by the invaders, to dress-up as mafia types, speeders, removers of matress tags,crack dealers, thieves, hookers, or any other select criminal,and:<br />Calling ourselves "C.A.R.L.",(Criminals Against Restrictive Laws) we would march for OUR freedoms to break the law of our choice too. After all, why should we be held accountable for the laws we break, if the invaders are not?<br />Well, the "C.A.R.L. March" Evolved into a rally for legal reasons (ironic huh?). Not only that, but those we wished could participate the most, are also hard-werkin people, unable to take a Monday off to express ourselves.<br /><br />As for the 3 buks an hour thing: Only fuel for your makeshift Mexican fire storm.IOW, just one more troll attempt.

 

[rodbolt]

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12feetz<br /> ya got me all wrong.<br /> fries my toaties that we have this problem.<br /> been having this problem.<br /> this admin,once the 06 election is done, aint gonna do sheet about it.<br />aint done sheet in 6 years aint gonna do sheet in the next 2.<br /> period.<br /> have a nice day enjoy your lunch.<br /> jr already told us that.<br />seems I voted for Reagan cause he was a gonna do something about it when there were like 3 million illegals.<br /> he did his amnesty thing but it seems the border security part of his amnesty thing got forgotton. I guess that was clintons fault.<br /> so yep it roasts me. however "we" as americans have done everything but send em buss fare.<br />"we" means our political leadership both rehub and dumbocrat.<br />both parties should be impeached and jailed. however both would reappear as something else, and the working folk will get more o the same.<br />term limits in congress,senate and house will be great, 2 terms in a lifetime max and no retirement bennies.<br /> see how many run for it.

 

[ob]

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Rodbolt,Above you made an analogy about the watch relief being responsible for any doors left open by the previous watch.Lets assume that the previous watch left a little big more of a problem than doors ajar in this case and flooded out two auxiliary engine rooms cause he was too tired to sound the bilges.It will take more time than the next watch will be on duty to pump the compartments dry and rectify any colateral damage.<br /><br />This analogy of mine simply eludes to the fact that illegal mexicans swarming the border is not even remotely a new scenario that just popped up on GW's watch.I'm sure you must be aware of that fact.Pointing fingers in accusal constantly without considering all of the variables is childish puppetry.Moreover,this administration is the first in recent decades to attempt anything at "all" in rectifying the illegal issue.Enough so that with just the mention of some plans to alieviate it, Juan and his ancesstors are calling on one another to lay down on the job Monday and eat tacos at the park.<br /><br />Will you join them?

 

[treedancer]

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According to the website that I have looked at and furnished a link too, the United States population is stable, Canada on the other hand has a declining population. I wonder what it would take to get some of these illegals to Canada? <br /> <br /> http://www.pregnantpause.org/numbers/fertility.htm <br /><br /><br /> Seriously we have to come up with a solution, I don’t think that going out and protesting the protesters is the answer. I have read that it is rather expensive to send each one back to the country that they came from; when you catch them maybe the answer is to get serious with the people that employ them.<br /><br /> I spend part of the year in Coral Springs FL, I believe that is in your neck of the woods there are plenty of illegals doing landscaping in that area. As for their work stoppage I don’t believe it will amount to much but I could be wrong. If it is successful it will hurt some states more than others we in the show me state will most likely have our chicken supply seriously interupted.

 

[Gone]

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I've already made it clear on this forum where I stand. No need to waste bandwidth.<br />AS for what can I do? I have one supplier who hires mexican labor. Interestingly enough, he is a part time weekend police officer in his community. I asked him if he will be open on Monday. He said yes, but may have some employees missing. I asked if they are illegals. He doesn't know but they presented him with the documents that the Feds require. I said that anyone can buy those docs on the street, did he check them for authenticity? No, the INS doesn't require nor pay him to do that. I told him that we'll try to get that changed.<br />I represent 60% of his business and he just moved into a new building. I have no hesitency in making him hire only confirmed legals or I will send his share of jobs to the other two suppliers approved for the parts. I am that coldly serious about this issue.

 

[rodbolt]

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hahaha<br /> 12feetz and Ob would actually be funny if they knew any thing about watchstanding<br /> as a security Rover aboard the USS Arliegh Burke underway the security watch stander is the ONLY person aboard that has a weapon as of 95.<br />when I assumed the watch I had to do it 15min prior to the actual published time just as my relief did.<br /> I made all the rounds from the poof mags to the 5" gun mags to the nuke missle house mags,<br /> I would never ever ever assume the watch if anything was amiss, neither would anyone else.<br /> if any any small tiny descrepancy was noted most likly an immediate call for security alert was issued by the OOD.<br /> aint no way I would have signed for it.<br />yep I voted for bubba in 00, however its become painfully clear we all made a mistake, the only one that wont admit to it and change course is the idiot we elected.<br />so give us some positive stuff, not bull sheet about 4 mud hut schools or its a war on ghosts, I mean terror. give us some positive stuff on why bubba said last week on the tee wee that Iraq is the next presidents problem.<br /> bubbas x act werds baby.<br /> bubba has solidified himself as an idiot that has surrounded himself with folk that are terrified to tell the emporer he has no clothes.<br /> crusty<br /> how ya gonna confirm or deny if the employees are legal or not?<br /> gonna use last names? maybe facial hair or lack of?<br /> shheet the feds have it so messed up they cannot tell. yet after 6 years of yeehaaa the b4est I get is its clintons fault

 

[RubberFrog]

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Who cares whoes fault it is. Let's just elect someone that will fix it.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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I agree with ya 12footer. It is an invasion in many ways. It just didn't start in the last 10 years, but it started back in the 60's and 70's if not earlier. The numbers of them then were so low that nobody considered it a threat. NAFTA aided Mexico in taking lots of our industry, and now they are after our soil on our own land.<br /><br />An answer to this is that let them do the meanial jobs and make them pay all the taxes associated with a single status. Allow no deductions. Just make it so when they get their check, they would be like an American. A large gross figure with a small take home number. Now if a citizen would work that same job for a bit less than minimum, DO NOT TAKE ANY TAX OR SOCIAL SECURITY from their pay. This would help the citizen and the employer since neither would have to deal with the IRS, state, and local taxes. Then allow that employer be subsidized for Workers Compensation in case anyone was hurt. If a plan like this was put into effect, maybe it would force the illegals to take the proper means to become a citizen and do the meanial low paying jobs for tax free status.<br /><br />At the age of 10, I worked the produce fields making 50 cents an hour on a 10 hour work day. There were a few illegals working the farm then, but not more than 5 of a 40 person crew. Sad part is that they weren't the best of the workers by far.<br /><br />The blame should be placed on all past and present administrations for not addressing this problem back then. Now it is too late to effectively act upon it. Sorta like the levy walls in NO. Make em look good but not effective.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Yep, "W" has addressed the situation.....<br />"Let 'em in!" .....JK

 

[rodbolt]

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yep<br /> once you do your inspection, the time from election to inauguration, you assume the watch. regardless of who left what door open.<br /> just like the sub captain on the USS Sanfrancisco. it was his sub and the excuse about faulty charts was not acceptable.<br /> so W had some months to properly assume the watch and 9 months to pump the flooded compartment yet choose to do nothing.<br /><br /> maybe the next administration can effectivly solve some domestic issues and get the US back on track, this admin is clearly going to stay the course even if it means piling up on the rocks.

 

[12Footer]

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Click here to see my final comment on this issue.<br />And thank you for your interest.

 

[POINTER94]

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Interesting video, clearly something has to be done yesterday. Based on politics nothing will be done until we can't do a thing. What exactly is beneficial about being an American CITIZEN?

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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WooooooWeeee, thanks 12er for sharing that. There needs to be some major action, and it aint gonna be nice.

 

[ob]

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Rodbolt,You're analogies and assumptions of things are deep left field and beyond.Are you infering that GW should have refused the Presidency until the previous administration sealed the borders?? Should the budget also have been balanced beforehand? I'm almost afraid to hear you're response.

 

[rodbolt]

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nope, I am saying it should have been on his priority list 6 years or so ago, ya just cannot keep blaming past admins if your doing absolutly nothing and have been in the power seat 6 years.<br /> yta cant tell me,as a Texas rancher, he did not know we had/have a problem. well as a republican I guess you could and if you repeat it often long and loud we will believe ya <br />and yep once you assume the watch as CIC guess who is in charge and responsible for any and all occurences until the watch is properly relieved.

 

[fireman57]

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When you're up to your *** in alligators it's tough to remember that your main objective was to drain the swamp. It has come time to fix the problem, not spread the blame. At least they are acknowledging that there is a problem and are actually contemplating doing something about it. It didn't happen overnight but it seems like they are trying to solve it overnight. A line drawn in the sand is a tough thing to defend. I don't want them here but they are and I don't have the definitive answer but i am open to suggestions. There is no way to find and deport them all but the borders could be sealed better. The best solution I have found is by Robin Williams. Bring all our troops home from around the world (except Iraq) because they don't want us there but they do want our money flowing into their country and station them at our border(s).

 

[fireman57]

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oops hit send twice.