Backfire

acelli

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Gents,<br /><br />I recently bought a 1990 Wellcraft St. Tropez 3300 with twin 7.4L Mercruiser inboards, supposedly recently rebuilt. The starboard engine runs great but the port engine makes a constant popping sound through the carburetor and sometimes through the exhaust while cruising above 3500 rpm. It does not do it as often at lower rpm’s. <br /><br />I had the carburetor rebuilt and it improved a little bit, especially at idle and low rpm. Ignition system looks OK. I can not tell much about the sparkplug wires. Would a simple continuity check be enough to tell if they are good?. What resistance should I expect? <br /><br />One more thing, apparently when the engine was rebuilt, they found that one of the heads cracked. So they were replaced with a newer generation heads. I’m not sure if they changed the valves and valve springs. On of the possibilities is that they did not and the “weak” springs do not close the valves entirely thus causing the backfire. <br /><br />I need guidance as to what to do next.
 

Northern Eclipse

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Re: Backfire

When you say newer generation head, are you taking about Vortec heads, if so then you must have changed the intake manifold has well, how does that motor idle?, does it start easy?, If you suspect valves I suggest you do a compression test followed with a leak down test,If this is not possible I then would pull the valve covers and have the rockers readjusted, I have heard motors pop after head work because of improper valve adjustment,I even saw one engine that would not start, my buddy replaced everything, turned out almost all the valves were open which, we readjusted the rockers and that motor fired right away.
 

Darian F.

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Re: Backfire

I agree with northern eclipse on a compression and leak down check. You should also check the distributor advance assembly to see if it is working properly, it is a good idea to replace spark plug wires, rotor button, and distributor cap if they are getting old or have damaged by salt water, after doing the compression check, look at the spark plugs and see if the deposits are the same, buy new plugs if needed
 

acelli

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Re: Backfire

Thanks Guys,<br /><br />How should I do the leak down test?<br /><br />I guess i would leave the pressure on the gage for some time to see if the pressure drops off.
 

acelli

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Re: Backfire

The motor does take some effort to start. I normally have to hit the gas a couple of times and not bring the lever all the way down for it to start. <br /><br />After it warms up, it idles OK. <br /><br />I dont think the heads are Vortec, but i will try to find out.
 

rodbolt

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Re: Backfire

Hola<br /> buenos noches.<br /> well thats about all my espanol:(. my fiancee lives in caracas. I hope to vist the puerto la cruz area this winter. I am looking to relocate from the states and all I knoww are engines and machine shop work. well 6 years of electronics in the navy. I am a retied Firecontrolman.<br /> anyway your problem can be caused by many things. a sticking valve is most likely. a bad spring will show up with a simple vacume test. a leakdown test is much more accurate than a compression test and is able to pinpoint where in the cyl its not sealing. the cyl in a perfect motor will have 0% leakage past the rings,head gasket and valves. 10 to 15% is the max allowable leakage before bad things happen. the advance on that engine should be electronic. I think it has the merv thunderbolt type IV. maybe a typeV. post back if you know what ign system it has. I just replaced the port engine on a 86 33 st tropez. beautiful boats. some techs that are not used to the older 454/7.4 cannot seem to get lifter preload right when adjusting valves. a leakdown can tell ya if the valves are leaking. my only beef with the 33 st tropez is the dang V drives . I hates V drives. makes me work to hard to line up the shaft coupler.<br /> anyway email me at rodbolt40@yahoo.com if ya need more. my spanish is not good my Mayte is a translator so if it helps write it in spanish and I will send it to her. <br /> oh a leakdown test. that is where you bring the engine up to TDC compression stroke. add a metered amount of air usually 100 psi and the other gauge will show the amount of make up air it takes to maintain 100 psi as a percentage. and if your not dead on TDC the motor will turn quickly. keep all hair, hands, feet and other things you would like to keep attached to your body away from anything that moves when applying air.<br /><br /> good luck and keep posting
 

Kesh

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Re: Backfire

Hi all, hi rodbolt<br /><br />This guy is a very good friend, so I will try to save him some researching. Here you have some links regarding the leakdown test.<br /><br />AC-PLC: This is my understanding of the leakdown test after reading some of the info:<br /><br />You put the cylinder in top dead center (TDC) of the compression stroke, so the valves are supposed to be closed. You then pressurize the cylinder with air, using a regulator to set the pressure (you read the incoming pressure in a manometer) and then you take note of the actual pressure retained inside the cylinder (there is another manometer to read it). So lets say you put in 100 psi, but the second manometer reads only 90 psi, then you have a 10% "leakdown". You make the test for all cylinders and write down the results so you can identify which cylinder has a too high leak. From the reading of the links below, you should not have more than 10% leakdown in any cylinder.<br /><br />The good thing is that, while applying the pressure, you can listen for air escaping through the carburetor, or another sparkplug port, or exhaust, etc. So you can identify where is the problem causing the leak.<br /><br />LINKS:<br />*******<br />Leakdown test explained (automobile engine):<br />--------------------------------------<br /> http://www.geocities.com/dsmgrrrl/FAQs/leakdown.htm <br /><br />Leakdown test explained (automobile engine) (THIS IS A CLEAR, GOOD EXPLANATION):<br />--------------------------------------<br /> http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/53599/ <br /><br />Some tips for the leakdown test (aviation engine):<br />-----------------------------------------<br /> http://www.928oc.org/tip/tip420.htm <br /><br />This is a good explanation of the leakdown test benefits and it also has a good explanation on how to make your "home made" tester:<br />-----------------------------------------<br /> http://www.vmaxoutlaw.com/tech/leakdown_tester.htm <br /><br />Dual gauge leakdown tester (One gauge shows the pressure being applied, the other shows how much pressure the cylinder is holding. The difference between the two gauges is your leakdown):<br />-----------------------------------------<br /> http://www.powerhouseproducts.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PH&Product_Code=POW301018 <br /><br />Also, Summit Racing Equipment has a $73 dual gauge leakdown tester:<br />-----------------------------------------<br /> http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM-900010&view=2047
 
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