Bad Weather and Boating (Squalls)

Spoleto13

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I'm interested in hearing about your worse weather related experience with your boat and how you made it through the storm. My husband and I bought our first boat last year and everyone keeps telling us that our day will come regarding getting stuck in a squall or bad weather. In light of the tragic accident on the Baltimore Harbor this weekend where a squall came up and flipped a water taxi with 25 people on board, is there anything you can do to prepare for bad weather if unable to reach shelter or a cove? I heard you should put on life jackets, listen to VHF radio, put your bow into the wind, anchor if possible, don't shut off engine, go in the cabin and ride it out if possible (engine not running and anchored). <br /><br />Thanks in advance for all your feedback. :) <br /> <br />I hope my boat always floats. :)
 

crab bait

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Re: Bad Weather and Boating (Squalls)

welcome to the show,here at IBOATS.. <br /><br />an prayers to all in that accident..<br /><br />what you said to do ,, is as good as you can do..<br /><br />my worst one was in '86.. in a buddies 18 ft. alum landeau.. on the delaware river but close to the bay demarkcation.. <br /><br />as storm ,,some say a twister.. came from nowhere.. 50/60 mph winds.. for only 4 minutes..!!<br /><br />we were both sitting huddled together an scared shakin' like-a-leaf.. i knew death was imminate.. <br /><br />as fast as it came,,,, it left.. we lived thru it..<br /><br />a few years ago ,, me an the same guy in his new alum river boat were at WYE MILLS crabbin'.. a thunder storm bum rushed us again ,,from nowhere.. bolts crackin' everwhere..!! we were the 'oak tree' in the middle of a field..knowin' an second a bolt with my name would be delivered.. <br /><br />i was so scared ,, i didn't want the pray ..for fear of drawin' attention to myself......<br /> <br /><br />those water taxis sit high in the water..<br /><br />there's 2 companies... one's with I/O's ..the other with O/B's... i bet it was the O/B...... not enuff ballist....
 

Boatist

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Re: Bad Weather and Boating (Squalls)

Only been caught one time out. We do not get tornado or huricanes here and very few thunderstorms One or two a year.<br /><br />We were fishing off shore 25 miles North of Bodega Bay Calfiornia. Bodega Bay is about 40 miles North of San Francisco. Like always we checked the forcast before heading out but the marine forcast included no warnings at all. We always wear our life Jackets when going off shore. Put them on while the engine is warming up before shoveing off.<br /><br />When we got out had light fog but could see about one mile. Sea 3 to 4 foot and 15 seconds apart so headed 25 miles North to fish. By the time we got there the fog was gone and the sun was shinning. We could see a thunder storm way out to sea but it looked to be heading north and away from us. Before we knew it it was on top of us. More lighting strickes than I have ever seen. Since it was between us and the only port we could reach we decided to head in as close to shore as we could safely get where there is a high mountain 2000 feet. Figured lighting may hit the high peaks and not us. Then Both antenna started making this frying noise very loud. Lighting all around us but we could not see it anymore as raining so hard we could only see about 100 yards. Decided to head back to port. I touched the Loran C to set a return route and it shocked me very bad. I was scared but I did manage to set a return route by touching only the plastic keyboard. We headed in with both antenna frying and raining very hard. I not sure if the lighting quite or the rain made so much noise we could no longer here. About 15 mile back the rain was gone and we stopped and caught a few more fish then it started to rain again but just lightly. We went all the way in washed the boat and trailer and my son dried the boat while I cleaned fish. Sun came out we took two pictures of big fish then the skyies opened up and it rained hard for 8 hours. Sleeping in a leaky tent so tried to rig some tarps over the tent. Worked pretty well but even with gortex rain Gear I was wet and tired. Next morning we slept in but it turned out to be a great day. A trip none of us will ever forget. Coast guard forcast now saying was a huricane turned tropical storm, turned tropical depression. No way this should have been missed in the forcast. Talked with nearly 50 boaters in same camp as us and everyone had almost the same experience as we did over at least a 50 miles area.<br /><br />Out offshore in deep water with no danger of being blown into shallow water then if you decide to ride it out, I think a big sea anchor works better than a regular anchor. Of course must stand watch. Coast Guard Class I have taken say to try and adjust your anchor rode out to where the sea anchore is on the same part of the next swell as you are on. Keep all weight low in the boat and in the center. Pump bilge if nessary.
 

crazy charlie

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Re: Bad Weather and Boating (Squalls)

It really depends where you are doing your boating as to what exactly to do and where to go.#1-always listen to the weather radio BEFORE you head to the boat.#2-always have a vhf with you for updated weather (we also carry a small transistor weather radio with us,$20 radio shack)#3 select where to go that day by the weather forcast.#4-always have life vests on.#5-trim tabs up to keep bow up so boat will plow into the waves.#6 depending on severity of waves I would not plane off,-stay with plowing speed with bow up.#7-If near shore and winds are coming from the direction of the shore-head close to shore.The waves will always be smaller on shore side if thats where the winds are coming from.I could go on forever but the best course of action is prevention-LISTEN TO THE WEATHER RADIO BEFORE YOU GO AND WHILE YOU ARE GOING.Charlie
 

imported_Mike_M2

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Re: Bad Weather and Boating (Squalls)

I boat Baltimore harbor every weekend, and they have a few different styles of taxis there. The one that flipped was kinda like a pleasure pontoon they just biult a room over. They are just as tall as wide, and a wall of wind probably made it like a sail. That style doesn't look very stable to begin with compared to the others. They have bigger pontoons they use also, big wide twin outboard ones. The last stop they make is Fort Mchenry, a few hundred yards from the edge of the 6 knot zone and open waters. Anybody that boats the area will tell you, that 6 knot edge on a busy day is like a sunami! every 10 seconds a big boat is planing off and another is coming in. <br />My worst experience in a storm? A 24 ft. pontoon in the middle of Assawoman bay. We hit one that was sooo bad you couldn't stand up. It ripped the bimini off, sunk my jet ski i was pulling. The winds hit 50mph and the rain was stinging, and nowhere to hide on a pontoon! To top it off, i had 10 people on board, elders and children.
 

f_inscreenname

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For someone that passes that spot every time I go out it will be something else to think about then just the history that happened there. When you are looking at Fort McHenry from the channel you go to the right to go to the Inner Harbor (2 miles) or go to the left where my ramp is maybe a mile. I have been out there when the weather picks up and it is no fun. Those taxi’s are just boxes on pontoons. With 25 people on it and making a turn I am sure the outside was low in the water and the inside was high and a 50mph wind would flip it over easy. I live by BWI and when the storm came through it was sunny then within a min you were in a nasty storm for 3 mins and then sunny again. As slow as they go the Capt didn't have a chance. <br /> As for my worst storm...It happened about five miles from where the taxi accident happened. I am sure that most that have been around here for awhile know I have a 19’ “speed” boat the euro style (closed bow, windshield, open cockpit). On the way out it was nice and sunny and warm. I looked behind me to see that the sky had turned black over top of the city (where my ramp is). I made a 180 and started back at about 45mph. As it started to rain I pushed the gas to the dash then the wind picked up. After going airborne (not in a good way) about 5 times within about 10 seconds I backed out and kept the bow high. The waves had picked so big and fast that I was taking the last one foot of the wave crest over the bow and into the boat. By the time I got to Fort McHenry the boat was half full of water. The motor never died (even with the belly gas tank under water) but if it had my boat would have been sitting on the bottom. The storm passed as fast as it came and with so much water in the boat I had to go back to the ramp and pull the drain plug (still took about 15 mins to drain) and that is after running the bilge pump the whole time. When I got all the water out of the boat (and checking everything over) I went back and re-launched to the dismay of most there at the ramp. My thought was 1-it was once in a life time event 2-I watch the weather (local on the eights) and check my P C’s weather site before I go out 3-prepare the worst and hope for the best. That is what you need to do before it happens and if you get caught keep the bow into the wind and don't turn off the motor and a couple of prayers don't hurt.<br />p.s. The scariest time I ever had was buzzing along at about 55mph on a perfect summer morning the water was like glass. A tug boat had gone into the Baltimore channel leaving 6 to 8 foot valleys (not waves) that I never saw coming. Talk about the bottom dropping out. I know the boat was standing almost straight up on the transom. Lost a trim tab and a couple of other things that flew out of the boat when I landed the first time. I knew I was in trouble when the stern went through the top foot or so of water and the bow kept rising. Thank god for that little bit or I am sure I would have been capsized before I ever got stopped. The moral of the story it as much as you prepare no one is prepared for everything.
 

CharlesW

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Re: Bad Weather and Boating (Squalls)

WEAR YOUR LIFE JACKETS! <br />Caps intended.<br /><br />Wearing your life jacket is probably the single best thing you can do to be safe in any weather. They are of no value to you under the seat and not much more if they aren't on your body.<br /><br />Charles :)
 

MajBach

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At the risk of going on like I was re-writing "War & Peace", I will post my own close encounter<br />We were out on Lake Erie – somewhere near Pelee Island – myself, my father and my grandfather. It was Gramps’s boat, about a 25 foot steel hull home-made cabin cruiser with a stand up console. It was a hot and sticky but calm July day. The other boat we had left the marina with was somewhere past the horizon and radioed us to say there was a storm brewing and moving in fast. I don’t know why we weren’t on shore when it hit but I do know that neither my father nor grandfather would ever be so ‘brave’ as to risk weathering a storm – perhaps we had engine trouble or simply received the news to late. <br />I do remember I was banished to the cabin below where I calmly colored in a Batman coloring book while eating double-fudge crème cookies.<br />I don’t remember being scared.<br />After an unknown period of time I must have grown bored or curious and came up to see what was happening on deck. As I opened the cabin door, a torrent of water came crashing down from above and behind me. I could see my gramps’s knees at the point of buckling as he struggled to stay at the wheel. He looked at me and smiled as if there was nothing interesting to see up here and sent me back to my quarters.<br />I didn’t see my father.<br />The next thing I remember after that was coming out as we approached a shore. The atmosphere was much different than it was when we started the trip. It was overcast, cold and humid with a stale ‘dangerous’ odor in the air. We landed on the island stern first and I recall watching my father jump from the swim platform onto shore and landing on a beer bottle – slicing open his foot. He didn’t seem to think it was a big deal but it turned me into a panic.<br />My next memory of that day was when the door opened at my aunt’s house and my mother and grandmother came screaming to the door with tears of relief in their eyes. It wasn’t until about ten years ago that I understood why. I listened with my jaw wide open as my father recalled the events of that day to a friend.<br />The storm came in fast and furious, with waves bigger than any my kin had ever seen before. We were fishing in shallow water, saturated with heavy underwater flora. As we tried to escape the approaching storm, our stern drive kept getting clogged with the vegetation to which it was my father’s duty to remain on the swim platform and remove it periodically as gramps struggled to keep the bow into the waves.<br />Miraculously, we managed to endure the breaking water for the what must have seemed like an eternal 20 minutes while the storm raged. But perhaps the biggest danger we faced despite the high winds, raging waters and lightning, was that my grandfather had filled the entire hull with empty bleach bottles, to ensure that his Titanic would never sink. After the first wave that broke from above us, the top-heavy boat was imminently in danger of capsizing. Somehow it never did.<br />Even though it was almost 35 years ago and I couldn’t have been more than four years old, I remember the event like it was yesterday. Funny, my recallection of that day is a good one; I don’t ever remember being afraid except when I saw blood coming from my father’s foot. The other boat we were ‘with’ made it safely to shore before the storm. After not hearing from us for quite some time after the weather had cleared, they called the authorities and went home to tell the family. One can only imagine how my mother and grandmother took the news. Although short lived, this was no regular afternoon storm and opened the six o’clock news.<br />Dad needed several stitches to replace the duct tape he used to stop the bleeding.<br />Gramps didn’t talk to anyone for days and sold the boat he had spent almost 20 years building the following fall.<br />I am told it was ten years before I set foot in a boat again<br /><br />The moral?<br />Use bleach bottles to mark rocks.
 
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