Battery Drain?

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Not sure where to start looking on this one. My battery is being drained. Took it off the charger and took the boat out to throw my jugs out. I wasn't out for very long and only started the engine 5-6 times that evening. The next morning when I went to check them the battery was dead when I went to head back. So the battery went from full to dead after only about 10 starts. I had my navigation lights on for a whole 30 minutes BUT the switch is going out so that I have to jiggle it a little to get them to come on. Battery was left hooked up overnight but key was taken out of ignition. It did get rained on pretty good while hooked up. Any suggestions where to start? It is a 1972 65hp evinrude if that helps.
 
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Re: Battery Drain?

I see I am getting a lot of views but no responses. Is that because the answer should be obvious to me or because it is a tricky question?
 

Silvertip

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Re: Battery Drain?

Load test the battery. A bad battery cannot hold a charge.
 

Noltz

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Re: Battery Drain?

As mentioned, batteries can self-discharge, but it doesn't sound like that's your issue. Especially considering the battery is very new.

This is not a normal situation, and it worries me just how much current you'd need to draw to kill a battery in 30 minutes. I look at Interstates reserve capacity of their marine batteries and see a BIG window, but assuming you're running the smallest battery it's still 100 minutes @ 25A. This means you're drawing far in excess of 25A to kill a fully charged battery in 30 minutes. Yes there's 10 starts there but that's a combined pull of ~150A for a total of what, 30 seconds (3 seconds crank per start)? That'd hardly touch the reserve.

The lack of responses is likely due to the lack of information. Other than knowing it's a 72 Evenrude we know nothing about your boat. What kind of vessel are we talking about? What kind of lighting are you using? Have you used a volt meter to see how much current you're losing? Have you removed the fuses from the boat and see if the draw is eliminated?

Here's how you can do draw test; Disconnect the positive lead and vice-grip a test light tip to the battery post. Then put the alligator clip from your test lead to the positive cable. You're putting my test light "in-line" with the power flow of the boat. If the light shines, there's a draw. A very dim light is acceptable in a car (clocks and keep-alive radios). Full brightness indicates a draw of at least 3 amps - unacceptable. Next, remove the fuses one-at-a-time and watch the bulb. If it goes out, or significantly dims, that's the faulty circuit. Then you're physically tracing the wire and figure out what's shorting.
 
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Re: Battery Drain?

Ok, sorry for not being clear. The battery is new because I have only had the boat 2 months and they only gave me the one battery. I chose to use the new battery as my starting battery and the older battery as my trolling/fish finder battery. This is a 1972 Strahm bass boat so no fancy wiring or fuses. The ONLY thing hooked up to the battery in question is the engine and the navigation lights. Also, it did not drain in 30 minutes, it drained over 12 hours. I only used the navigation lights for about 30 minutes and started the engine under 10 times before it died. If there is any other information I should provide please let me know.
 

UncleWillie

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Re: Battery Drain?

It will start the engine, so we can safely assume the connections are good.

Is it Charging???
Measure the voltage on the battery with the engine running.
You should see ~13.5 or more at idle and ~14 volts or more at mid RPMs.

Is it being Drained???
Immediately after charging, the battery will measure ~12.5+ volts.
Return in an hour or two, and remeasure the battery. If it is below 12.4 you may have a problem.
Remove the POS Battery cable, if the voltage goes UP, you have a significant drain.
Otherwise record the voltage every hour for as long as you have the patience.

Post the results and we can instruct on how to measure the actual drain and how to find it. (A Tedious process.)
 
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Well, after hooking the battery up to the charger it said it was charged after about an hour. So I think it is likely that I overlooked a bad connection. I will still test but I am thinking I just jumped the gun
 

bruceb58

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Re: Battery Drain?

Did you measure the voltage of the battery with a meter? How did you know it was completely discharged?
 
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Re: Battery Drain?

I didn't. When the boat wouldn't start I swapped batteries and it started so I assumed battery was dead.
 

Silvertip

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Re: Battery Drain?

When you swapped batteries you temporarily fixed the bad battery cable connection. Clean them -- both ends.
 

UncleWillie

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Re: Battery Drain?

Well, after hooking the battery up to the charger it said it was charged after about an hour. So I think it is likely that I overlooked a bad connection. I will still test but I am thinking I just jumped the gun

Using a line power charger doesn't help when you are on the lake.
The question is, "Is the engine Charging the Battery while it is running?"

When the boat wouldn't start I swapped batteries and it started so I assumed battery was dead.
Why was the battery dead? The engine should have been recharging it.

A battery that will start the engine 10 times without being charged is a good battery with good connections,
But if you keep running the start battery down to the point that it will no longer start the engine, it is not going to last very long. The battery was designed to crank the engine for a few seconds and then immediately get recharged by the alternator.

What is the Battery Voltage when the engine is running?
 
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