Batttery Switch question

rick3452

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Hi everyone...Newbee here with a Mercruiser 5.0 Sterndrive. My battery switch has Off, One, Two, and Both possitions on it. What is the proper way to use the switch?? After I start the boat using "both" do I switch back to 1, or 2 or keep it on both?:confused:
Thanks!!!
Rick
 

Skiwi

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Re: Batttery Switch question

My2c

I leave mine on 1 which is my cranking battery unless I am anchored and drawing current, I then switch to 2 (which is my deep cycle) to preserve my starting (cranking) battery, I use both to start my engine if my starter battery (1)ever fails.

I charge both batteries at home immediately after use
 

Fed

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Re: Batttery Switch question

I used to start the boat on #1 at the wharf & go fishing, half way through the day switch to #2 for the rest of the day.
Never bothered with BOTH and never switched with motor running as I don't trust the switch's contacts to make before break.
Never bothered with charging at home because I believe that has the potential to mask a failing battery.
We never go more than a Month without using the boat so there's no winterzing.
 

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I start on #1. When I get to my anchorage I switch to #2. When I leave I switch to both and let the alternator top them off on the ride back home. Simple, and works every time.
This is assuming it is wired properly with everything going to the COM terminal, meaning both or either battery will power everything.

Your bilge pump(s) should be wired directly to 12v power.
 

rick3452

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Re: Batttery Switch question

Thanks, So I can start and run the boat on # 1 only, and dont need to have it on both all the time, and when I return to the dock I can switch to #2 to listen to the radio, correct?? Then when I leave the boat I switch to OFF..

Thanks again, I'm learning!;)
 

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Re: Batttery Switch question

I like the skargo's idea of running both on the the last run to top both batteries off, Makes good sense. Can anyone tell me if I need a switch with AFD? I have an '84 johnson 115 outboard... I have not found any definite info.

Thanks,

Tom
 

Don S

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Re: Batttery Switch question

Wouldn't it be nice if all you had to do was turn your battery switch to ON and take off for the day and not have to do anything else. When you stop your engine, your house systems are automatically used, and your starting battery can't be drained accidentally. Your batterys are both charged automatically.
No more move switch to 1, then start, move to both while running, switch to 2 while anchored, move to 1 to restart, move to ................................... etc. etc. etc.
Personally, I would rather turn it on, go and shut it off when I am done and let the system remember what to do.

It can happen very easily.
http://bluesea.com/category/2/productline/docs/329

It's also available right here at iboats Click Here

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Why are these things so hard for folks to get their heads around? Consider the switch settings -- really consider them. Actually, how you use the switch depends on how it is wired. People do some really creative wiring when installing these devices so that alone can impact how it is used. However, IF (and I mean IF) every load (meaning every circuit) including the engine battery positive cable) is connected to the COM terminal on the switch, the here is how it works. How YOU use it is up to you but rather then be puzzled by the mere presence of the switch think about the batteries instead.
1) what happens when you start the engine on a boat with just a single battery? You suck a given amount of power from the one and only battery do you not? When you operate an accessory you also suck more power out of that single battery. When the engine is running, that single battery is being charged by the engine. Use too much power and you call for a tow or flag down an understanding boater.

2) So the purpose of adding the second battery and the switch is to what? If you answer "to make sure I'm not stuck with a dead starting battery you would be only half right. The correct answer is "to make sure I have ONE battery (either one or both) available to start the engine.

3) In the OFF position, it should be obvsious that both batteries are disconnected from the electrical system. Use that position when away from the boat for extended periods. That means days, weeks, or months -- not a couple hours or a few minutes.

4) In the BAT 1 position everything on the boat is powered by that battery, the engine starts from that battery and that battery is the only one being charged by the engine. BAT 2 is simply going along for the ride.

5) In the BAT 2 positon the same thing stated in step 4 applies but the second battery is doing the work. BAT 1 is simply going along for the ride.

6) Guess what happens in the BOTH position? Yes, BOTH batteries power everything and both batteries get charged by the engine and both batteries start the engine.

As I said, think about the batteries. Which one do you want to charge. Which one needs the charge? Which one do you want to use to start the engine? Is either battery nearly dead? You ran down the start battery (BAT 1) -- Now what? YOU are the brains behind (or in front) of the switch. Simply select the battery(ies) you want to do the work or you want to charge. Which ever one is the weakest is the one that should be selected when running. Which ever battery is house battery is the one that should be selected when anchored/docked and using accessories. You can use either or both to start the engine but typically it will be BAT 1 since it is generally a battery designed for starting duty. House batteries are typically deep cycle and not intended for starting duty although very many people use them as such.
 

tomynoks

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Re: Batttery Switch question

Answered in another thread..
 
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skargo

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Re: Batttery Switch question

Great post Silvertip!

You make a good point about the wiring. I wired my own, and if I would buy someone else's work, I would go over it anyway.

I would check it out and make sure it is wired correctly, follow every circuit to it's terminus. You will learn a lot about your own boat.
 

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Re: Batttery Switch question

I might add that when and how you switch can also depend on the switch you have, and your alternator. My boat has an alternator with integrated regualtor and there isn't a battery switch that I have found that will allow me to switch with the engine running. If I do, I wind up with blown diodes in my alternator.

Wayne
 

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Silvertip - I have several things wired directly to battery #2 so that they will work regardless of the battery switch setting. Radios and ff are three of them. Battery #1 is a standard group 27 automotive style battery while battery #2 is a larger (Group 30??) deep cycle. If I needed to, I can switch them in just a few minutes.

Wayne
 

tomynoks

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Re: Batttery Switch question

xeddog?? Won't a switch w/ AFD allow you to switch while engine is running?
 

Silvertip

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Re: Batttery Switch question

Ahhh -- so you prefer to screw around with wires rather than flip the switch to BAT 1 if the deep cycle dies! Sort of defeats the purpose of the switch does it not??
 

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Re: Batttery Switch question

there isn't a battery switch that I have found that will allow me to switch with the engine running.

All battery switches manufactured in the last 10 years at least, have a make before break feature built in so you can switch from 1-both-2 without fear of damaging an alternator of any kind. Just don't turn the switch to off.
 
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