Best Carburator for 5.0LX

Sea Ray Roy

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I know this is going to open up a whole lot of opinions, but I am ready to get them......Question is, What is THE best NEW carburator to replace a Rochester Quadra jet on a 1993 5.0LX, in a Sea Ray 220 OV..The Rochester Quadrajet is really testing my patience.
 

NHGuy

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Re: Best Carburator for 5.0LX

Welcome to the forum!

Why do you want to replace it?
If you want to fix it right yourself, get Cliff Ruggles book on the Quadrajet. They are actually great carbs, just kind of complex.
If you want to just buy a carb, get a new marine Edelbrock 600 cfm, #1409. They are $410 at Summit Racing. It should bolt on and it's a little easier to work with than your old one. Just check with Summit's help desk first to make sure that it fits your intake. Or look it up by application in their website.
I'd offer to redo your old carb but there would go a week of summer.
If you have questions I can walk you through them. I'm feeling pretty confident that I understand quadrajets now. One thing I can say is that the Mercruiser book does not even mention removing the idle tubes and cleaning the channels they feed. The removal process destroys the old tubes, but the $8 they cost is nothing compared to a smooth idling motor. Most rebuilds also skip the secondary cam, which actuates the secondary metering system. That's your wide open throttle fueling. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Or if you ask around near bigger lakes there's bound to be a carb guy with a solid reputation and knowledge of the marine Q jet.
 

achris

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Re: Best Carburator for 5.0LX

+1 on what NHGuy said... And if you do go to the replacement, anything but a Holley... Great strip carbs, but rubbish in boats. My personal preference would also be the Edelbrock 1409.

Chris.....
 

Sea Ray Roy

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Re: Best Carburator for 5.0LX

Thanks guys,
My reason for replacing it is I simply already have put the same amount of dollars into the carb for what I thought would be someone reputable rebuilding it....2 rebuilds, and a lake test, and my boat still has a hickup on take off, and one at about 2500 rpm, and going WOT from there.
To Lt. Commander in NH, I am boating on Lake Champlain, as you know, a very big lake....The boat handles the lake just fine, I just want to smooth out this issue and I have run out of patience with this particular boat shop.The season up here is too short to be having continuous problems.
 

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Re: Best Carburator for 5.0LX

Ayuh,.... The Edlebrock 1409 is a carbon copy of the carb used by Merc, since they dropped the quadra-jet,...
 

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Re: Best Carburator for 5.0LX

Is the hiccup on any takeoff or just a quick throttle-opening holeshot? And is your 2500 rpm hiccup when you go past 3/4 throttle with your stick? Or is it absolutely connected to RPM?
If your hesitation is from quickly moving the stick a long way, make sure you get two good shots of fuel from your accelerator pump when the throttle is moved fast. Just check with the motor off and looking down the carb.
If you haven't unscrewed the main jets and cleaned them up that could have something to do with your holeshot hesitation. The tubes they are in need to be clean too, they supply the main venturies. The jets can be removed and reinstalled with a screwdriver, no issue. Clean the tubes by blowing compressed air backward through the main venturies. If you do open the carb make sure to carefully set the float height. Those little machinist's rulers with a t shaped depth finder are great for checking float height. They sell amateur ones at Harbor Freight for cheap money.
If all that stuff is good make sure you have a nice smooth idle with no smoke, if it's smoky check your idle mix, the adjustments could be rich. If the idle is too rich the plugs get a little bit fouled at idle and they might clean up after a cough once you get off the idle circuit and onto the primary fuel.
Timing needs to be at spec or a degree advanced.
Ignition wires need to be good. When my wires got old I would get a pop back through my carb when accelerating from engine speeds above maybe 2000 RPM.
Shoot some carb cleaner around the base of the carb and the edges of the intake manifold and any possible air leak spots in the carb. Spray at the choke pivot, secondary flap pivot and throttle pivots. If the idle picks up from any of that stuff it's an air or vacuum leak.
You can check the function of the vacuum break by removing the vac line from the back of it, compress the link with your hand, put a finger over the vac hole and see if the link stays in. If it does it's good. If it leaks that will make your boat run wrong.
If that stuff is OK, or if you are interested in finding every little bit of performance, you can try different settings for the tension on the secondary air valve flap.
Spec is 1/2 to 3/4 turn from contact, but I go a little looser. Like maybe 1/4 to 1/3 turn from initial spring contact. It's easy to screw up though, you have to keep at least some tension on the spring when you release the set screw. If you allow it to go slack and lose the spring contact you will probably have to remove the carb and tip it over to reengage the spring. I put a little technician's screwdriver in the spring tensioner slot and hold it while I release the tension on the upward facing torx screw. Set the tension where you like and retighten the torx. The torx is a #10 and the space to reach it is limited, the best way is with a very short screwdriver bit holder and the #10 bit.
That's all I got, there's more but it's unusual to need in a boat carb. Good luck.
If you decide to get the Edelbrock, and are getting done with the OE carb I'd like to have it if you are not keeping it. I have a buddy who goes to Burlington every so often. Maybe he could pick it up if you are any where around there.
 
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