Bill of Non-rights

rogerwa

Commander
Joined
Nov 29, 2000
Messages
2,339
A friend sent this to me. Enjoy.<br /><br />The Bill of Non-Rights <br />> <br />> <br />> The following has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell <br />>Kaye <br />>from GA. This guy should run for President. <br />> <br />> "We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help <br />>everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, <br />>keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the <br />>blessings of <br />>debt free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, <br />>hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense <br />>guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other <br />>liberal bed-wetters. <br />> <br />> We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people <br />>are <br />>confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of <br />>NON-Rights." <br />> <br />> ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or <br />>any <br />>other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire <br />>them, <br />>but no one is guaranteeing anything. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This <br />>country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not <br />>just <br />>you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different <br />>opinion, <br />>etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you <br />>stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect <br />>the <br />>tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently <br />>wealthy. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. <br />>Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly <br />>help <br />>anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing <br />>generation <br />>after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more <br />>than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That <br />>would be <br />>nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in <br />>public health care. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other <br />>people. <br />>If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be <br />>surprised <br />>if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. <br />>If <br />>you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, <br />>don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a <br />>place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a <br />>life of leisure. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure <br />>want <br />>you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we <br />>expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and <br />>vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an <br />>American <br />>means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is <br />>a <br />>lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws <br />>created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights. <br />> <br />> ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where <br />>you <br />>are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you <br />>came <br />>from. <br />> <br />> (lastly....) <br />> <br />> ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's <br />>history or <br />>heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And <br />>yet, <br />>you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no <br />>faith <br />>at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part <br />>of <br />>our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, <br />>TOUGH!!!! <br />> <br />> If you agree, share this with a friend. No, you don't have to, and <br />>nothing tragic will befall you if you don't. I just think it's about <br />>time <br />>common sense is allowed to flourish.
 

JGREGORY

Lieutenant
Joined
Jun 1, 2003
Messages
1,412
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Saw this before but I think it needs to be put up on a billboard with neon lights as a reminder to the whiners. :)
 

plywoody

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Aug 11, 2002
Messages
685
Re: Bill of Non-rights

What a bunch of drivel!<br /><br />I have never heard of anyone ever suggesting that anyone, at least presumably on welfare, has any right to any TV, let alone a big screen TV. It is typical of your average right wing wacko to get all emotional and worked up over something that does not exist, however.<br /><br />Just once I'd like to see the right get worked up about all the corporate crooks out there that cost the west coast billions of dollars in manipulated energy prices, or scammed stockholders with inflated profit pictures, and then come back to the government for a tax rebate after they restated their profits, and on and on.<br /><br />It would be so much more refreshing rather than all the hysteria we see over whether some poor sap on welfare might just get a pack of gum from the government more than he deserved.<br /><br />Give me a break.
 

12Footer

Fleet Admiral
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
8,217
Re: Bill of Non-rights

I know it kinda angers you, Plywoody, but many of your fellow Americans (me amoung them), would read the original post and say, "YES!!! Right-on!". <br />So you have to ask yourself why this is so. You must lead a somewhat sheltered life, not seeing the mean streets too often. I was raised in a very rough suburb of Hialeah, and not only saw it, but was deeply scared by some of it.<br />The thing with the welfare and the big screen tv is not just for comic effect,my debateable friend.<br />It has it's source in fact. If you doubt this, take a drive thru the projects nearest you, and check-out the trash piles or the dumpster. I know this is a strange request, but do it.<br />I'll lay you odds of the fishing lure of your choice, there will be at minimum, one of the folowing articles amoung the refuse;<br /><br />1; Big screen tv box.<br />2; Plasma or HDTV box.<br />3; High-end sound system box.<br />4. High-end stereo or TV receiver (probably broken.<br />5; Used drug parafinalia (SP).<br /><br />I garuntee you'll see one or more of those items,which tells an undeniable story of the priorities, values, and habits of those who use this refuse recptacle.<br />I'm not saying that all those who use it are warped in such a manner, but a disproportional amount are.<br />Now, go to a mid to upper class housing developement, and do the same thing. (Upper class is out, because the cops will be on you like flies on rice), and perform the same "research".<br /><br />now that you're back home in front of your computer, let me try to explain why I think this is the way it is. You may or may not agree with my theory, but it is just a theory;<br /><br />Not being the wealthiest person in the world, and having the background I have, I tend to see poor people a lot. I would like to break them down into two groups, I'll call "type-1, and Type-2---<br />Type-1 = Those who beleive thier plight is temporary, and can be overcome,and will bang thier heads against the steel wall every day, relentlessly trying to work thier way out.<br />And type-2 = those who are convinced, this is all they can be, and have lopng-since resigned themselves and thier families, that there is no other way to live.<br /><br />All that to say, "If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.<br />If you teach him to fish, he can feed himself and his family for a lifetime."<br />I'm sure you've heard that proverb in some form or another, but it is so true.<br />If you keep Robin Hood rules on your tax-paying public, you take more and more fish from the most productive fishermen, and give those fish to the least productive fishermen. Any humanitarian society will look-after it's fishermen who are too old or infirm to launch thier poverbial fishing craft, and a system to take some fish from those who are productive, is a 'no-brainer'. But bear with me, Plywoody.<br />There are those who know no other way of existance then to take the fish society throws at them, and say, "that aint enough". In fact, maybee they are right, maybee they are wrong.<br />And this is where those of us who care enough to think about these matters, think two seperate ways.<br />I gotta go, but I aint done with this one.<br />Mrs 12Footer wants to get veggies, so we are loading-up the dawg and ridin-on-out).<br />I know you care deeply about this issue, but so do I, even tho I find the original post hilarious, and to the point.<br />I'll pick-up where I left off later this afternoon.<br />Till then, dont take it so hard, Plywoody.
 

JB

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
45,907
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Yep. Plywoody's back.<br /><br />Glad to see your bleeding-heart Liberal drivel, PW. :) <br /><br />Try this one:<br /><br />You do not have the right to endanger the health or lives of others to satisfy your macho lust for adventure or addiction to chemical substances.
 

TexSkeeter150

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jul 3, 2003
Messages
277
Re: Bill of Non-rights

I have never heard of anyone ever suggesting that anyone, at least presumably on welfare, has any right to any TV, let alone a big screen TV. It is typical of your average right wing wacko to get all emotional and worked up over something that does not exist, however.
Don't take this so literal. This is more of an exaggerated way of dogging on socialism. A lot of people today expect the government to provide for them what others have. Of course, being a compassionate country we help all we can, but we don't have that "right" in the name of fairness.<br />
Just once I'd like to see the right get worked up about all the corporate crooks out there that cost the west coast billions of dollars in manipulated energy prices
I think left agenda in the west coast has cost themselves billions of dollars. The total refusal to foresee the insufficiant supply of energy all in the name of "envrionmental protection" has ended up with rolling blackouts and a California liberal governer about to be booted out. Where would the west coast be if power and electricity wasn't piped in form Arizona and Texas. This capitalism at its best. If Demand is more than supply, prices will skyrocket.<br />
or scammed stockholders with inflated profit pictures, and then come back to the government for a tax rebate after they restated their profits, and on and on.
Hey, can't argue with that. All the conservatives and liberals I know are very upset wtih this. There are bad apples in all walks of life and they should be delt with to the fullest punishment of the law.<br />The summary of rogerwa's post is about limited government, individual responsiblity and the country being founded under "God". <br />By the way I am not trying to insult or rag on anyone. Just commenting on great disscussion.
 

lakeman1999

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Apr 20, 2003
Messages
550
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Hello plywoodie, I do not know how old you are, but I just imagine you are one of the hippies of the 60's (along with slick willie, hellery, Jane Fonda, and the likes), many of them have grown up, left their communes, and are now trying to tell we who volunteered for the armed forces during WW2, korea, vietnam (instead of running to Canada) How to live our lives, and to welcome all of the q***rs (gay is not the correct word), deadbeats, dope heads, criminals, and illegal aliens, with open arms. <br />You are probably to young to know anything about what this country is really all about. The big problem is you are grown up now, and trying too run things, but you have either been deadbeats in a commune untill your coming out, and wanting too take over or have been protected by your parents, and have never learned anything. Oh! sure, you have been to college, and been "educated", but believe me, you do not really learn anything in college, it just prepares you to start learning when you tackle society. When I was a youngster, there were people who lived at the lowest rung on the ladder of society, but they still had self esteeem, and that is what eventually enabled them to work their way up that ladder of life from rung to rung, without any fake bells and whistles to boost their self esteem, their ambition, morals, and work habits leading them along the way. When these persons could not make their way and went on welfare, they had to forsake the telephone (was not a necesity), an automobile, or any luxuries (yes a telephone, auto, boat, and TV are all luxuries, as they are not necessary) TV was an unknown then, as well as sign their property over to the county, to be payment for keeping them too their death. Ah! plywoodie, you may not believe me, but it is true that prior too the 2nd world war very few families in the US lived as well as the families the Liberals claim to be in poverty today. As a child, I can remember living in a shack with dirt floors. During the depression (I was a baby) my parents both worked side by side in the fields from daylight till dark for one dollar a week, and their room and board. I could go on forever, telling you how every day working familys, not the poor but the average lived and survived, but you would not believe me, because you are a spoiled liberal. No one that has ever lived hard, and worked hard to get where they are with constant worries, and no parents to fall bact to in event of hardship has turned out to be a liberal. Oh! by the way, prisons were not a summer camp then, and criminals did not have rights, as should be today. A police officer was respected and a criminal was detested ah!! then came the Kennedys, and their liberal agenda. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

Ralph 123

Captain
Joined
Jun 24, 2003
Messages
3,983
Re: Bill of Non-rights

12 footer - I think you hit the nail right on the head. I too grew up in an inner city and saw exactly what you described. You are dead right about the 2 groups. And race, doesn't enter into the equation - the 2 groups are the 2 groups regardless.<br /><br />There is a big difference between giving someone a hand and giving someone a hand-out. The later creates a culture of dependence and a whole group of disfunctional people. <br /><br />I ask you, who is responsible for the plight of these people? Is it the poeple who created the entitlement culture and enslaved them into poverty? Or, is it the people who say, "get off your butt and get a job and we'll help you along the way?"<br /><br />Who is more of a danger to liberty the people who want to control all behavior except sexual, elliminate all religion from public discourse, force people to go to certain schools, redistribute wealth w/o encouraging initiative and hard work, and who has enslave people in a cycle of poverty and voting obedience? Or, is it the people who say, less government, more freedom, less dependence, less BS?<br /><br />The funny thing is the Left has done a great job of convincing people the later group is the threat while the reality is they are the threat. They are socialist elietes who think they should decide everything becuase the un-washed masses are too stupid to decide things on their own.
 

Ralph 123

Captain
Joined
Jun 24, 2003
Messages
3,983
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Lakeman - we seem to think a lot alike. I realized that when I saw your "Houston" post. <br /><br />Anyway, when you said:<br /><br />"No one that has ever lived hard, and worked hard to get where they are with constant worries, and no parents to fall bact to in event of hardship has turned out to be a liberal"<br /><br />You nailed it. <br /><br />Liberals seem to be mostly made up of people who have had a lot handed to them and/or made a lot of money easy (like acting). I think a lot of them feel guilty about it or somehting...I dunno some deep pshycho thing goin' on there...
 

12Footer

Fleet Admiral
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
8,217
Re: Bill of Non-rights

I'm back. And this is where those of us who care enough to think about these matters, think two seperate ways.<br />The way I see things, I'm tired of working, only to have over one-third of what I earn taken-away from me by the government,only to be given away in one entitlement program after another! If these funds were used wisely, I would have no problem doing just that. But to see the lack of effort, waste, and bottomless demands placed upon us, I get angry.We all get angry when we are robbed, whether it is by gun or knife-point, or by corporate book-cookers....both are low-life mutations not worthy to breathe my air!<br /><br />I may not be here too much longer, so I'm just going to cut to the chase with you every chance I get. And I'll start by telling you to re-think the cost of education, training, career-building, small buisness assistance programs in leu of the handout, except in cases of the old and infirm.<br />If the able-bodied wants me to help him, he must show efforts at helping himself, lest I formulate the thought that this is how he wants to live.<br />I never give anyone in front of the convienience store a quarter to make a phone call, because the chance of the 25cents making it to the phone are nill,compared to the chances the CSR gets it and the others he collected for his wine purchase.<br />This is not right, and is one area in which I still control what comes from my pocket/. Plywoody, you may find this to be a cruel reaction to my fellow man, but for some unknown reason, it actually feels good to say, "No sir" to a wino. It's only sad, in that, because of this mutant, someone who really could use a quarter to call his wife to pick him up at the 7-11, is still there.<br />And for that, I am angry at the wino.<br />The dumpster is a true microcosym of the society that uses it. The dumpsters look different in other countries , and even in different comunities of the SAME country.<br />And as Ralph stated earlier , the race card does not enter this picture,so don't even think about playing it. The culture card trumps all others anyhow. What type of culture would you want for your country? I sugjest you work for that, and werk hard. And teach the next generation well....At the very least, teach them that bedpan cleaning is a noble task for the youth to learn.Because, some day too soon, the bedpan may be you own.<br />At least, let those of us who are fed-up with the outrageous taxation, crime, constitution-shreading and dumbing-down of America's youth, have a good laugh at your extremely high ,socialist expense once in a while!
 

Ralph 123

Captain
Joined
Jun 24, 2003
Messages
3,983
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Well said! 12Footer for Senate! We need more of your wisdom - you can't go anywhere!<br /><br />The funny thing is that most of the liberals don't ever bump into the winos in front of the C-Store. As Lakeman said, they don't come from the kind of neighborhoods where such things are common. Just like they don't send their kids to public schools - the same schools they want our kids to go... Heaven forbid they back a plan that would allow a poor kid to attend a private school! What a bunch of socialistic hypocrites
 

Kenneth Brown

Captain
Joined
Feb 3, 2003
Messages
3,481
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Uh-oh, I don't know where I fit in. I'm only 29 so the whole running to Canada thing do work for me. I didn't go to Desert Storm either, but I would have if Uncle Sam would have asked. <br /><br />Let me tell a little story here for everyone. My sister in law is white, 25ish, and has 2 kids. She has "been getting a divorce" for the last 2 years. She lives in a regular appt. that the goverment pays for ($425 a month when its only worth about $200), recieves Lone Star card (food stamps), recieves child care money from not only being a housing allowence recipient but also from being a continueing education person, is getting her nursing program paid for in addition with them providing money for books, travel, food, and "convience" money. She also recieves child support courtesy of Texas because her sorry husband quit his job so he doesn't have an income and we get to pay his share till he "gets back on his feet". We, as taxpayers also pay the kids and her insurance, which is much better than mine. I know its long but wanted to give you a little story. A few months ago we were getting behind pretty bad. Knowing that she didn't use her allotment on the Lone Star card I asked if we could "buy" some of its use for 75 cents on the dollar. I know its not right but I really needed the help and I do pay all of my taxes supporting the system. She told me "No, Jennifer is already buying it from me". Note that Jennifer is basiclly doing the same scam as her. Fast forward two months. SIL calls up wanting to sell her card, wants to go to the "club" with her freinds, more low life scum. I tell my wife to tell her to !@#$% off. SIL can't seem to understand what the problem is. I wonder if she is really that !@#$%^& stupid. <br /><br />I grew up poor. My dad worked in the oil field whenever the economy would allow it. We hunted rabbits and frogs many nights for food. If it wasn't for beans we would have starved. We had a cast iron stove for heat. At 7 years old I had to find wood to heat the house because my dad was gone on a rig someshere in East Texas or Louisiana. My brother was just a year or so old so my mother couldn't leave him alone. I did it many times, yes here in Texas. I also remember thawing out the well for water. A couple of years later ( I was in the 4th grade) we moved to town. I used an old beat up lawn mower to mow lawns. I would go out every day after school and in the summer all day and hunt up lawns to mow. No, I didn't have to give my money to my folks, but I would have if they needed it. I did buy some nice school clothes for my self though, saved my mom money she didn't have to begin with. Fast forward a few more years. My dad now has a small shop where he does mechanic work. He hires me to help with my payment being a $50 go cart motor for one month of work, it sounded like a good deal at the time. Was I ever wrong!, or was I? I continued to work for him after my month was up, albeit a little better pay scale. I continued to work in his shop after he couldn't stay open do to slow business. I continue to this day to do my own repair work and still do a little shade tree work whenever I can, it does help out a times. <br /><br />I'm not trying to paint myself as a goody two shoes role model for others, just showing that it can be done. I had a hard childhood. I hated my folks for it. I now love them for it. If I had to leave my luxurys I know I could, I can make it without most of the stuff, and without the govenments help.<br /><br />Thanks for the room to rant gang.
 

Ralph 123

Captain
Joined
Jun 24, 2003
Messages
3,983
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Ken I hear you. I also admire what you have done. I grew up pretty poor too. I look at it this way, nobody ever did a thing for me, I did it on my own. Nobody can ever take that away from me so I am a rich man beyond money. And, people like us know how to be poor so we have peace of mind - we know we can survive. <br /><br />Just a quick story that is a little spooky. I was in Bolder CO for some event. I was walking down the center of town there which is nice and upscale. A mountain man sees me and looks into my eyes and says, "You envy me. You envy my freedom."<br /><br />At that moment I realized a simple truth. You are only truly free if you are dirt poor or filthy rich. In between you're just a slave of one degree or another. The middle class is the least free of all - not enough to be free and too much to be free. <br /><br />The Mountain Man was dead right. I did envy his freedom and he realized it before I even did. Spooky....
 

Kenneth Brown

Captain
Joined
Feb 3, 2003
Messages
3,481
Re: Bill of Non-rights

Oh man Ralph, That is so true. It tears me to the end to think of what you just said. Ya know something else spooky? Grizzly Adams was my hero as a child, he still pretty much is.
 
Top