Bottom paint issues

hman

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boat bottom2011.jpgHello: I have a 31' cruisers yacht rogue that I am having problems with the bottom paint. The paint just peels off. I started to scrape off all the paint which is coming off very easy. My question is what to do next? here are some pics. Any help would be great
 

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Fireman431

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Re: Bottom paint issues

If you have an adhesion problem, it's due to the prep (or lack of it) work. Could be from improper hull sanding, lack of primer, improper mixing of the AF paint, low quality paint, weather, humidity, blah, blah, blah.

Go to the website of whoever made your paint and start reading.
 

my1stboat1

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Re: Bottom paint issues

did mine today, scraped then sanded hull with orbital and 300 grid paper then solvent clean ... then 1st coat 2 hours to cure then 2nd coat 1 hour to cure and then 3rd and final coat let cure all nite removed all tape came out great... I used west marine ANTIFOUL hull paint Black and took the gallon can to home depot and had them mix it real good for me with there mixers... Very happy with the finish
 

wingless

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Re: Bottom paint issues

When I decided to improve my bottom, I power washed, then sanded down to the bare gell coat hull.

Prior to this undertaking I had thought my hull was defect-free. Prior to this undertaking I had what I thought was random adhesion issues.

Once I got to bare hull I found several factory defects that were exterior exposed voids that were uncovered once the hull was bare.

All the voids were dug open, then filled with West System w/ filler.

The "random" adhesion issues were four clearly defined bands, two on each side, near the bow and near the stern, where the boat sat in the cradle at the factory. The "cradle bands" had bottom paint-only, no primer, no second coat.

The bare hull then received five coats of Pettit 4700 / 4701 epoxy barrier coat. Then Pettit Vivid bottom paint.

The epoxy barrier coat provides great protection to the hull and provides a great base for the bottom paint.

Follow all directions.
 

hman

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Re: Bottom paint issues

Thanks. First year with the boat. when I bought it, It already was painted. Just really found the problem this winter after the boat was pulled. So after all scrapping is done I should use 300 grit? or something stronger for sanding. I plan on taking all previous bottom paint off all the way up to the water line. Any other concerns that I should worry about?
 

wingless

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Re: Bottom paint issues

Use the grit recommended by the selected product. Follow the directions.
 

Chris1956

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Re: Bottom paint issues

When boats are new out of the mold, they have some mold-release wax on them. When they are painted without proper prep, the wax causes the bottom paint to flake off in places. New hulls have guarantees, however, sanding the hull voids these, so they are almost never sanded, and very few are primed. The mold-release wax is hardly ever completely removed as well. Go to a boat yard and see the crappy bottom painting jobs that are everywhere.

You want to remove all the old bottom paint, prime or barrior-coat the bare hull and then apply good bottom paint. Removing the paint can be done with chemicals, sandpaper, blasting or some combination of all three. If you see blisters or thin gelcoat, use a barrior coat. Some allow as few as three coats and are temperature sensitive, so watch the weather. if the hull is good, use some good primer. I have used the pettit no-sand primer. It has overcoat time limits so check it out before using.

I applied the barrior coats in the spring, when the ave temp allowed me to apply one coat before work each morning. The fourth morning I put the first A-F coat on. The fifth morning, the second coat of A-F. Then she was ready to launch on Sat.
 

hman

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Re: Bottom paint issues

Thanks: I wanted to have the bottom soda blasted, but the marina price came in way to high so I had an outside company give me a price which was very good however the marina will only allow that one company to do the blasting at their yards. lesson learned the hard way.
 
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