Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

plywoody

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This should be interesting. I hope Russert will be able to elicit something a little deeper than the normal cliche answers we have come to expect.<br /><br />I especially got a kick recently when Bush was asked how he can expect to cut the deficit in half while making permanent the tax cuts, with spending seemingly out of control, the new estimate for the prescription drug benefit increasing by some 30%, and nothing even in the budget for Iraq, etc...<br /><br />His answer? We are going to use "Wise policy decisions" to do it! What a crack up! Now what does that mean?<br /><br />I guess the implication is that we went from a surplus to record deficits in three short years with "Unwise policy decisions" and now we somehow have become "Wise". I feel better already!
 

boatingfool

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Re: Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

Plywoody,<br /><br />Your one of those "Anyone But Bush" people .<br /><br />Bush could solve every national problem facing this country and you would still find a reason to B1tch. ;)
 

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boatingfool

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oddjob

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[edit : below is a C&P ....Toad busted me.... :rolleyes: ]<br /><br />This is for you PW: misery loves company right?<br /><br />Subject: Bush cost me my job, my kids and my houses<br /><br />Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind. I lost my job this past year. When Clinton was president I was secure and prosperous, but in the last year, we had to close our operations. We simply could not compete with foreign labor. This foreign labor worked for low pay under very bad conditions. <br />They worked very long shifts, and many even died on the job. <br />This competition could hardly be called "fair." I was forced out of the place where I had worked for 34 years. <br />Not a single government program was there to help me. <br />How can Bush call himself "compassionate?" Far worse, I lost two of my sons in Bush's evil war in Iraq. They gave their lives for their country, and for what? So that Bush's oil buddies can get rich. My pain of losing my sons is indescribable. <br />While it is trivial next to the loss of my sons, I regret to say that I also lost my home. I simply have nothing left. How can Bush call himself a Christian when he neglects people like me? I am a senior citizen with various medical problems. I'm not in a position where I can begin a new career. I was reduced to the point where I had to live in a hole in a ground, all because of President Bush. <br />And when the authorities found me there, did they have any compassion for my misfortune and ailments? No, I was arrested. Mr. Bush, I dare you to look me in the face and tell me you are a compassionate man! I dare you to look me in the face and tell me you are a Christian. If I had any money left, I would donate it to the Democrat Party. <br />If Al Gore had been elected in 2000 I would still have a job, a home, and most importantly, my dear sons! <br />Regards, <br />Saddam Hussein<br /> :(
 

Ralph 123

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Re: Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

Great Post OddJob... And for Qaddaffi you can add, Bush took away my guns!
 

12Footer

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Re: Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

A troll this obvious is not worth a reply.
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snapperbait

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Yup... Bush sure has some liberal spending habbits... <br /><br />Ya'll just can't stand it Plywoody tells the truth on ya, huh?
 

Toad2001

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I don't understand why PW can't post without people whining twoll twoll twoll!!<br />PW's an intelligent person. Personally I respect his view, like I do anyone's so long as that view is not defamatory towards a defenceless group.<br /><br />*(Oddjob-I hope you aren't going to try and take credit for your above creative writing)
 

JB

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Re: Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

I remember a very common comment from the early 40s.<br /><br />"Hey, don't you know there's a war on??"
 

Toad2001

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Everyone supports the troops JB, theres no doubt about that. What we're seeing now is that there's more and more evidence that there absolutely wouldn't be a war if not for one man (a smug faced Texan.)
 

JGREGORY

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Plywoody Deficit spending is not only a good thing at a time of slow econmic growth but it is a tool used by the Government to help stimulate growth.<br /><br />Just like increased taxes is a tool to slow economic growth.<br /><br />Maybe you and the Media should take an EC101 class.<br /><br />(edit) Oh yeah Fix your typo in your heading and we just Might Take you seriously, Na probably Not. :p :p :p :p
 

Toad2001

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Thats OK I don't take Bush too seriously.<br />I don't know if he can spell, but he does use words that aren't even real like "misunderestimate".<br /> ;)
 

snapperbait

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Maybe this theory of deficit spending does stimulate a poor economy... I don't see it... <br /><br />Will it not take an eventual increase in taxes to pay for this deficit spending, and why does the problem, and the blame, allways seem to fall in the democrats lap when it comes time to fix what the "conservatives" messed up, especially when there's a democrat in the white house???? :confused: <br /><br />I weep for the future of the U.S.A. if bush is re-elected which unfortunately looks like it will happen... :( Five more years of this "conservative's" extreemly "liberal spending" will certainly break this country...<br /><br />Thanks for the mess GW. .... :mad:
 

CalicoKid

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Re: Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

"Hey, Don't you know there's a war on?"<br /><br />Guess that's a good enough excuse to let everything else go to Hell...
 

Parrott_head

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Re: Bsuh on meet the press on Sunday

Keynesian Economics, (John Maynard Keynes (1883-1946)) <br /><br /> http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/KeynesianEconomics.html <br /><br />One of the tenants of Keynesian Economics is that the government can go into debt to stimulate economic growth during an economic slump. Once the slump is broken the government can then raise additional revenue to pay off the debt.<br /><br />Trouble with this theory is that it is politically difficult to raise taxes during times of economic prosperity to pay down the debt.<br /><br />There are good reasons to be concerned about our deepening debt. Much of this debt is financed by other countries that invest in the United States because we are viewed as an economically safe nation. If our debt load becomes too great these same foreign countries may dump our currency. That could have disastrous results for our economy.<br /><br />Yes, there is a war on. I remember my President made a speech about this to us. Cannot remember his exact words but I recall him saying the price would be high but America would make the commitment to win.<br /><br />My father was a Corpsman, combat medic, during the Korean War. His older brother served in the Pacific during WWII. I guess if my Father and Uncle can go to war and risk life and limb for their country the least I could do for this war effort is support an adjustment to my taxes so that the bills for this war are not passed down for generations. In WWII there were savings bonds that helped finance the war, why not the same now?<br />I have friends overseas now in this effort yet I'm not being asked to sacrifice anything.<br /><br />I noticed that again this year there is the dollar check off that gives money for political campaigns. Says it will not increase or decrease your tax liability. Then where the heck does the money come from, they mug the Good Tooth Fairy?<br /><br />How about this. Replace that line in the tax form with this one. "Would you contribute to help fund the current war on terrorism? Any amount you contribute will be added to your total tax bill or debited from your refund."<br /><br />Just my thoughts, nothing else.
 

plywoody

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jg,<br /><br />I've taken many an economic class. One thing they teach you is that different circumstances require different solutions.<br /><br />The difference between the Reagan tax cuts, for example, and to the extent they were successful, and the current Bush tax cut, is that the country faced dramatically different circumstances in those days.<br /><br />We were living with double digit interest rates, Money market accounts were yielding double digit returns, and in order to get investment going in the economy, something had to be done, as to get someone to invest where there was any risk would require a return in the 20% range or better, which are extraordiarily difficult to find. Tax cuts, some investment tax credits, and the like make very good sense in that situation, and would tend to stimulate the economy.<br /><br />The circumstances today are far different as there is has been no shortage of investment capital, but there has been a shortage of consumer demand. With money markets rates in the low single digits, there is no shortage of money to invest in a good business plan.<br /><br />To the extent that tax cuts stimulate consumer demand, they can help tremendously, and a small percentage of the tax cuts have done just that. The problem is that the majority of the tax cuts have gone to those that will not spend it to stimulate the economy, but have only tended to increase the deficit.<br /><br />Frankly, the irony is that had the tax cuts been targeted to the middle class consumers, in the form of reductions in the income tax rate, and more importantly, payroll tax relief, it would have dramatically improved the results of the highest income people in added economic growth, even if their tax rate had stayed the same.<br /><br />It is a completely different situation than what faced the country under Reagan, and different solutions were warranted. Unfortunately, they were not used.
 

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Yeah great post oddjob! <br /><br />Now lets hear a real letter from an American , concerning your <br />Subject: Bush cost me my job, my kids and my houses.<br /><br />The "guest worker" of President Bush's does nothing to secure you, me or America's security or economy.<br />Just because our man Bush says, does, or implies it, doesn't make it so.<br /><br />Again, more empty rhetoric.<br /><br />In contrast:<br />The founders were against debt. It was their intention to pay off debt, using excise taxes on imports. Alexander Hamilton (federalist #7) called for the 'extinguishment of all debt'. Later, Jefferson wrote ""I place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared."
 
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