Can I ground my loran to the I/O?

rumbler1

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I have a loran unit that suffers when the ground goes south. Can I ground it to the I/O engine? Will I get electrical interference when the engine is running?<br />Thanks,
 

Boatist

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Re: Can I ground my loran to the I/O?

I not sure what you mean by "Loran unit that suffers when ground goes south". If you had a bad ground then clean it up. My Loran C has had 3 grounds every since the day of the lighting storm and the frying antenna sound. I touched the unit and got shocked. I ground every thing to the battery negitive cable. Battery negitive cable is of course grounded to my I/O engine block and my aluminum hull. My unit still works great. Still use it most of the time even thou have gps also.
 

ThomWV

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Re: Can I ground my loran to the I/O?

You will have 2 grounds on your LORAN and maybe 3. Each has a different job to do and each is important.<br /><br />The first ground is the power ground, the negative side of your DC circuit. It won't hurt anything to ground this to your engine but you'd be better off to buffer that with the battery. So if you have a negative side buss bar that is connected directly to one of the battery's negative side cables go ahead and connect this one to the buss bar.<br /><br />The second one, and this is the one you are probably talking about, is there to establish a ground plane for the antenna. LORAN uses relatively low frequency broadcasts for its operation and as a consequency the actually antenna is very long (although your antenna itself is quite short there is a wire inside the coupler that is part of the antenna and that wire is hundreds of feet long). For your antenna to work properly that antenna wire has to be complimented by a ground plane, which the water would be happy to provide if you give it a way to do it. So that second ground connects the water to the antenna system (by way of the display unit usually) and it is essential to proper operation of the LORAN. This one definitly should NOT be connected directly to your engine. There is a very good possibility that you have all sorts of electrical eddys passing through that engine, some from spark plugs, some from plug wires, some from alternators, some from goodness only knows what. The very last thing you want to do is make a direct connection between all of that electrial mess and your antenna. See what I mean? This line should be connected directly to an earth (water) ground. It was no accident that Marinco used to sell an awful lot of "Dynaplates" for just this purpose. They work, buy the smallest one they make (hint - buy it on E-Bay where they sell for about a fourth of what they do elsewhere) and hook it up. <br /><br />Oh, the third ground, if you have one (most LORANs don't), is a chassis ground which is just there to bring the potential down to zero. Connect it to the dynaplate too, if you have one.<br /><br />Thom
 

rumbler1

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Re: Can I ground my loran to the I/O?

Thanks Boatist and Thom;<br />The ground which I was referring to is the antenna ground. Sorry for any confusion. Like Thom, I still like the Loran, even though there is a GPS sitting next to it. I think that my Pilot Loran has better accuracy in finding established waypoints.<br />By the way, I am not as new to the forum as my profile may look. I was on this site for over a year until my login info was lost by Iboats. Thus another new member is born.<br />Jack
 
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