can starter spin fly wheel just fast enough for stator to show power but not trigger the triggers?

killjoy

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I have no spark on a 1988 Force 125. This all started with the boat not getting up to speed in the water. We determined the stator was bad, as cylinders 2 and 4 had no spark. ordered a new stator and replaced it. The motor fired up faster than it had ever started. It did have a little bit of a hard time staying idle, but I wrote that off as dirty carbs. We got excited and took it to the nearest lake. The boat would not start with the foot fully submerged in the water(part of the problems we had last year). After many attempts, we finally got it going, but again, it didn't want to stay idling. The starter and battery got very hot from continued cranking, and I'm sure I damaged the starter, as the gear does not always return to its original down position after engaging the flywheel. The boat has no spark now. I first thought the ignition trigger was bad, as we did some basic tests. It looks like (with a test light) the stator is sending some power to the power packs. I don't have a DVA adapter, so I can't test how much. It appears that the triggers are not sending their power to the power packs to trigger the spark. Before I start, just replacing everything, is it possible that the starter is spinning the flywheel fast enough to show some power going to the power packs, but not fast enough to set off the triggers?
 

Nordin

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I do not really know the answer of your question but I think if the starter turn the flywheel fast enought to generate power to the CDI modules it will be enought for the triggers too.
The trigger voltage has to be 0,5VDC DVA or higher to trigger the CDI modules.
The starter has to turn the flywheel with about 2-300 RPM to generate power to the CDI modules and triggers to work.
If you are handy you can build your own DVA adapter.
Google DVA adapter and you got a lot of schematics.
It contains resistor, a electrolyt capasitor and a diod.
I have made a couple for myself and they work greate.
The purpose of the adapter is to charge the capacitor through the diod so you can see the peak voltage at the VOM. Most regular VOMs only read RMS (rote mean square) values of the AC voltage.from the stator/triggers etc. So you do not see the peak value.
 
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