Carb adjustment Edelbrock

badbowtie

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I replaced the motor with a rebuilt motor from Rapido Marine, I have tried to adjust the timing several times and right around 3,000, it sounds like it has a backfiring popping miss, you can power through it and it's fine, not sure if I need to adjust the step up springs in the carb, I am running a 1409 edelbrock with the factory springs. I have a step up spring assortment, but not sure which springs do what.

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John_S

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

What engine do you have?

Set the timing back to factory or what Rapido indicated. May want to check your engine vacuum to make sure not trying to compensate for another engine issue.

Read and following the tuning guide: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/carbs_acc/pdf/carb_owners_manual.pdf

Was it a new carb with stock jetting?

Is it popping at 3000rpm trying to get on plane, or 3000rpm on plane and cruising?

Offhand, I'd guess the latter, and it sounds like you are running lean in the cruise. Probably a rod and/or jet change.
 

badbowtie

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

Timing is another issue, I posted a couple weeks ago about that.

It doesn't matter if I am trying to get on plane or not, it pops at 3000rpm, I can power past it. It is a new carb with stock jetting. I have a step up spring set and I am not sure which color or at which throttle they determine how they run.
 

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

Timing is another issue, I posted a couple weeks ago about that.

It doesn't matter if I am trying to get on plane or not, it pops at 3000rpm, I can power past it. It is a new carb with stock jetting. I have a step up spring set and I am not sure which color or at which throttle they determine how they run.

Well, I wouldn't be trying to tune a carb if you have a timing issue. Anytime you change the timing, need to go back and do the idle mixture and idle speed. As far as the springs, it's pretty straight forward in the manual. I believe the stock 1409 are orange.

The 1409 should run fairly well on a SBC V8 out of the box. So that's why I suggested checking other things first, ie like engine vacuum. If it is low, the carb cal is going to be off.

From manual:
CALIBRATING THE POWER MODE STAGING
The Step-Up function, which moves the Metering Rod to the Power Mode, is controlled by the Step-Up Spring. The base calibration has a spring which ?stages? rich at 5" Hg. If your vehicle has a mid-throttle driveability problem that is encountered as the throttle is gradually opened, but then goes away upon further opening, it may be possible to eliminate the lean spot by using a stronger Step-Up Spring. The available Step-Up Springs are listed in the following chart along with their respective ?staging? point. It is best to select a new spring on the basis of vacuum readings, but in the absence of a gauge, try the strongest spring (highest vacuum rating) to see if the problem goes away. If the drive problem is cured by the strong spring, try the next weakest spring as well. If the strong one does not help, then the calibration problem is related to the A/F metering stage of either the Cruise or Power Modes. Use the Calibration Reference Chart to help select another combination.

Spring Color: Blue Yellow Orange Pink Plain
Staging Vacuum: 3" 4" 5" 7" 8"
 

badbowtie

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

I just got back from the lake, pulled out the orange spring, installed the pink one. Definetely made a huge improvement, just crusing between 3 and 3200 there is a very faint miss, but you can tell it pulls stronger.
 

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

Mercruiser used the Weber 4 barrel for a few years in the late 90's. The Edelbrock is a copy of the Weber (or the Weber is a copy of the Edelbrock, not sure which).

The factory original Weber on my 5.7L has the 3 step metering rod and natural color springs in it.

Looks like from the manual that Mercruiser mostly used the stiffer springs (pink or natural):

springs.jpg
 

PMP

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

I Just put this carb on as well and am having issues. was your's backfiring and poping out the exhaust or the carb?
 

badbowtie

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

That is interesting I may even try the plain springs and see if it goes completly away. It sounds like it is backfiring through the exhaust does not sound like it coming out the carb whats yours doing and did you fix it.
 

PMP

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

working on the fix still but mine is also from the carb..
 

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

Have you serviced the distributor? pull breaker plate clean lube centrifical weight cams?
Springs may be sticking.
 

badbowtie

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Re: Carb adjustment Edelbrock

The distributor is brand new this year. I am going to take the boat out all weekened I may even try the plain spring and see what jets I have. Let me know what you figure out PMP
 
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