center console

Billnicole

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Im looking for an older center console boat 17 to 20 foot I have looked at Robalo and Proline any thoughts on any problems or things I should look for? the boats were from 1971 to 1980. Should I stay away from them?<br /><br />Thanks
 

JasonJ

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Re: center console

Do not fixate on the brand or whatever percieved problems the brand may have had. You want to focus on the actual boat you are looking at. The older the boat, the more the odds go up that it was neglected. It is true that some boats are more abuse tolerant than others, but they all succumb to the Death By Stupidity. You want to look at the boat and decide if it has been left out in the elements year round with no cover, has it had snow left to pile in, thaw and freeze. Has it has a continuous exposure to rain, and water left to collect and stand in the bilge. Look at the registration sticker, if it hasn't been registered in four years, that means it hasn't been ran in four years. The seller will say "It ran great the last time I used it", but it is highly unlikely it has been touched since it was registered so you are looking at possible bad gas, gummed up carbs, bad water pump, etc. Most people who decide to sell their boat after years of no registration do it because something is wrong and they do not want to mess with it. They just stick a For Sale sign on and then you get to sit there while they try to get it started for you. They don't even bother to make sure it is squared away when they go to sell it. If the registration is current or at least last years, you know it has still been in use, then you can go about checking for corroded wiring, soft floors, and all that. Look at the hull design, is it a flats boat and you will be in heavy chop all the time? Consider everything, and if you feel comfortable with the boat, and the price is acceptable, then you can ask if the brand is a decent one, but I wouldn't worry about the brand too much unless its a Bayliner, and even then you can find a decent on of those too...Good luck.
 

Solittle

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Re: center console

Welcome Billnicole - Both Robalo and Proline are good sound boats. More important than the brand or year is the condition. By that I mean you need to understand exactly what the condition is of any boat you are seriously considering. If this is going to be your first boat make sure that you take along someone who really knows boats even if you have to hire someone. Be careful of friends who say they are knowledgeable but only have had one boat and that is a 14' with a 9.9 hp on it. <br /><br />I wouldn't run away from a boat with a sick engine (if I thought it was repairable) or run awqay from a boat that has ripped canvas and torn seats. That is because I know what to do to make it right. In fact those are the kinds of boats I have looked for. I take all of the boats problems into consideration when I negotiate the price. I have made a couple of real good deals that way and ended up selling some of my my made over boats at a profit.<br /><br />Spend some time using the red search engine at the top of the page. There is a ton of info on this site frome people who have been there and done that. The project boats section may also be usefull. The engine sections will give you some insight on what kinds of problems others have had with their motors.<br /><br />Blasting around this site is a hell of a lot more interesting than watching TV and you learn while you are at it.
 

biloxiriver

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Re: center console

Probably the biggest issue you will run into in that age bracket (I speak from experience) is a weak transom and/or stringers. Boats in that age for the most part have lots of wood in them. Three years ago I had the transom rebuilt in a 1973 WellCraft and cost a couple of grand. But they did some good work and by the time the transom goes again I doubt if the boat will still be on the water; I sold it shortly after the transom job. Be advised, I/Os will burn drive couplings if the transom is not firm and does not flex. However, I also purchased a 1974 17' Aquasport OB that still had a very solid transom and good stringers. It just depends on how the boat was maintained and stored, and, to me, if an OB, whether or not the transom had too much power (and motor weight) than it was rated for. The old Aquasport was rated for a 140 but never had anything bigger than an 85 on it.
 

crazy charlie

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Re: center console

I would highly recommend adding Mako to your list.They are high quality and good rough water boats even the smaller ones.Charlie
 

TopNotch

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Re: center console

I have a theory that most of the people that buy "brand new" boats... know nothing about boats and boating in general.<br /><br />Fiberglass will pretty much last forever if taken care of properly. Aquasport/Mako/Wellcraft/SeaCraft... all well built boats in the 70's. If you can find an owner thats willing to sell one, in decent shape, Id say go for it. Most people, you'd have to kill them first to take away their 1970's Mako's.
 

mattttt25

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Re: center console

my theory is that most of the people that buy "brand new" boats have more money than the rest of us...<br /><br />condition counts most. proline, mako, boston whaler, grady white, robalo.... all great names.<br /><br />good luck and enjoy-
 

crazy charlie

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Re: center console

You are right Topnotch,I have an 84 17ft mako and I would not give it up.I have people ask me all the time to let them know if I ever decide to sell it. Charlie
 

DBLD

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Re: center console

I'll add my stamp of approval to 1970's Makos as well. I bought a 17ft '75 Mako that needed work - fixed it up and loved it. The only reason I no longer have it is because I found a 19ft '75 Mako that I bought (and the wife wouldn't let me have 2 boats!).<br /><br />I've found that older boats do need work, but if you are a little handy, pay attention to detail, and don't mind getting dirty, you can "modernize" things fairly inexpensively. <br /><br />I replaced all switches and wiring, new batteries, new seats, and new teak and trim as needed. Maybe fix some chips in the gelcoat here and there. A good powerwashing and a few coats of wax is all it takes to get it back in shape. All in all, for a few hundred dollars, I've had both of my older boats in great shape. Good luck!
 
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