Chainsaw Vs Pneumatic Recip saw

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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Chunks vs slurry<br /><br />would using a pnuemo recip saw with water (no shock hazard) be even less messy than the ol buzzsaw treatment? <br /><br />primary concern is the wetness problem, would there be a problem with saturation for being able to glass it back together<br /><br />secondary is the type of blade ... the grit edge seems to be invincible ... but that super tough bi metal blade with the aggressive teeth, that looks like a winner too<br /><br />(super tough, but enough for fiberglass?)<br /><br /> :rolleyes:
 

JasonJ

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Re: Chainsaw Vs Pneumatic Recip saw

I never even considered using anything but my 4 inch angle grinder with metal cutoff wheel and grinding disc. The control was superior, the disc never wore down, and I already owned one. Off course, the dust was amazingly annoying, but I go around that by having a large fan blowing the crap out of the carport into the then rainy day. Yeah, some dust stayed, but when I was done I swept the hull and carport out, then washed everything. If I were you, I would use the sawzall over the chainsaw if you are committed to those two choices. You have better control with a sawzall, and the learning curve won't be as steep. I know there are some on here that swear by a chainsaw, but in my opinion it is too bulky and dangerous of a tool to use for this application. Either way, good luck...
 

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Re: Chainsaw Vs Pneumatic Recip saw

My concern with a chainsaw would be that the auto-oiled chain and bar would leave a lot of oil residue on the glass that might affect adhesion later?
 

jomac

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The Kid's got a good point Ray i'am using a chainsaw to cut up the remainder of the donor hull for my project, oil is everywhere :eek: not to mention I've had to sharpen chain twice already, still not done! used sawzall to cut splice area! water is not going to hurt you, good day of sunshine and you'll be fine
 

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Great! come to think of it, I have an air grinder, so still, I can use water to keep the dust down<br /><br />and home dompot has discs for ten bucks with a ten year warranty ... or lifetime, ive ingested so many posts Im the last few days between the myriad of house and extended family projects, sheesh ... but ten years or lifetime warrany ... <br /><br />and I have two massive projects, lol<br /><br />"how in the HELLL did you wear out a DOZEN of these blades????"<br /><br />it wasnt easy ....<br /><br /> :cool:
 

evin300

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Ya, I did not use oil when cutting with the chainsaw. I dont see why you couldnt use water instead.<br /><br />Also, a chainsaw will not cut through your hull easily, that is the point, it cuts thin fiberglass and wood, ya know, demolition, without hull destruction.<br /><br />A little bulky, yes, but you face will be far away from the cutting, compared to other tools.<br /><br />Jason...I have used every tool mentioned in this thread, including a chainsaw. I am a believer because I have done it. Of course its natural to be skeptical, but this is just one of those things ya gotta do to understand.<br /><br />Oh ya, castaway, a reciprocating saw cuts too good in my opinion, do ya really want to use a tool that will slice and dice your hull, at the slightest mistake? Ya wanna use a great cutting tool? great! But remember, when it comes to floor, stringer and transom demolition, that agressive tool can really hurt you bad when you hit the hull. <br /><br />However, if you are just cutting out a section of floor, that is meant to be replaced, and not a total demo, then I would entertain the use of tools other than a chainsaw<br /><br />BTW, did I mention that it took me about 3 hours to remove ALL of the wood from a 16' fiberglass boat, after a very short learning curve? Yes, that would be the transom, stringers and floor. I am talking about removing the floor completely to the hull, none of this, leave 3" of plywood stuff.<br /><br />Oh, just one more thing, how many tools out there have a reach like a chainsaw bar does? Ya just cant belive it till ya do it, most will resort to familiar, comfortable and "safe" tools, and thats ok....as some folks really shouldnt be behind a chainsaw. Good luck to all, whatever your method. I do know what works for me, and I hope it helps someone.<br /><br />Whatever ya do, protect yourself from dust, and practice safe working methods! Good Luck
 

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Re: Chainsaw Vs Pneumatic Recip saw

if using a gas powered chainsaw beware of fumes if inside a garage. only use in well ventilated or outside.
 

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could never get control using any type of saw with fiberglass.<br /><br />answer: rotozip!!! one of the greatest tools ever invented.
 

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three hours?????<br /><br />::hunting for ol buzzy::<br /><br />jason was working for WEEKS it seems with that angle grinder .... hmmmmmm<br /><br />point taken about that sawz all, I love em for rough cutting in plumbing and the like, fairly skilled ... but I have nicked some schedule 40 in my life, lol, cheap chit whacks up like paper<br /><br />speaking of schedule 40, would french drain type tubing run down the center drain out the hull? the starcraft has ribs in the way<br /><br />thanks for the heads up! <br /><br />speaking of that ol Crestliner ...<br /><br />
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has anyone else used the rotozip? Im not wedded to either idea, chainsaw or recip, but those are the only two I can think of that would get me out of the dust boondoggle, I dont want to be afflicted with fiberlasitis<br /><br />when I was a kid, I saw some fiberglass cloth at bidwells ditch when we were taking the old SeaMaster out I was working on a wooden boat at the time, I was like seven or so, my parents indulged my woodworking, creative side, MUCH more than my painting side, (three year old 62 galaxie 500 turned two tone, sorta like the two tone Lincoln my mom liked, I got caught by asking for rope and the keys to the trunk so I could tie the spare tire to the bumper!)(a bad three year old, A bad 41 year old, ask the one woman warden brigade, lol)<br /><br />back to bidwells ditch ... running down the creek and out into the bay, I kept getting itchier and ITCHIER, clawing at my leg ... mom of course found the fiberglass, and the huge rash like bumps on my leg - agony - and back we went, me to the hospital in underwear, I really really HATE FIBERGLASS and dont want to get it on me - so I am trying to figure out a way to get it as contained as possible, water being the best solution, and water being a conductant of heat as WELL as electicity, well, air and gas seem to be the thing<br /><br />but a rotozip would make a small cut, maybe the dust wouldnt be as bad<br /><br />and so it goes<br /><br /> :cool: :cool:
 

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Re: Chainsaw Vs Pneumatic Recip saw

to avoid fiberglass rash, wear coveralls, I wear just underear underneath to avoid getting too hot. And a hat and a dust mask. Also rub baby powder in your skin where you'll must likely get glass on, like your face, neck and wrists. Then take a very cold shower right after you are done. The powder fills your pores, the glass can't get in, the cold shower washes the glass away, if you use hot it'll open your pores and in goes the galss fibers!<br /><br />to cut glass, I guess a sawzall is good they sell a carbide blade that'll last longer than a toothed one. Or try a skilsaw with a cement cutting blade, and a air cutoff tool for small spaces.
 

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Re: Chainsaw Vs Pneumatic Recip saw

If I hated f-glass that much, I would buy the biggest rotozip I could afford and lay out the cut lines with marker or tape on the boat. Then I would rig a jig to keep the rotozip right on the line(s). Suit up in a full-body, haz-mat containment suit (disposable), with gloves and a full-head respirator. Work until you get sweaty, then quit, resume when you've cooled off. OR pay a bud some brews to do the rotozipping, but warn in advance of the f-glass nasties. Post pix of the project, too.
 

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LOL, now thats a good idea!<br /><br />Kegger at Ray's! Drink up AFTER cutting the old stuff out, and grinding it down! I could go for that, even trade em for engine work done or a tune up or something (or talk the One Woman Wolf Whistle parade to put on the ol bikini and go gardening)(gets em everytime!) just have to warn her to go away when it gets critical, dont want a hole in the bottom of the boat<br /><br /> :cool:
 

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who wants a beer? LOL, Ill pour ya a river of the stuff, and a creek of scotch <br /><br /> :cool:
 
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