Cracked Heads Merc 305

Ski19570

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Hi,

Have a problem here. I have a 2001 2150 Bayliner Capri with the Merc 305 CID engine 2 barrel carb. I run my boat all year long so it really never sits for more than a couple of weeks. Was up on Tahoe and at about 3000 RPM the boat would surge a bit (much like a waterskier was on an outside turn). Got it home and decided to check the tune. Pulled the plugs and when I got to Cylinder #5 water ran out. Pulled the exchast, Flappers look good. Pulled the risers and they look good although there was water in the exhast manifold. I then went and did a compression check (after pulling all the plugs to dry out #5 which was the only one that showed water leakage) and they were all over the place, 1 and 2 being the only ones in range. I then pulled the heads. Seems I have four cracks, the longest being a inch and a half long, all coming from the exhaust valve seat, all in the same place by the webbing and all between the middle two cylinders, both sides, 3 and 5, 4 and 6. Head gasket shows that it appears that the engine got hot as there was carbon between these cylinders on the gasket.

Not sure what went wrong but I don't want it to happen again. I'm a maintenance freak. I bought the service manuals they say change the oil every 100 hours, I do 50. Plugs, tune up, oil, filter (both oil and fuel) are changed at the same time. Change the gear oil at the same time. The boat has only 376 hours on it and you can eat off the engine. It has never over heated on me and I'm the only one who has driven it. I changed the impellar at 250 hours which was two years in and have a note to wait three as it was in such good condition. I have had one problem with the cooling system and that was the thermostat stuck open and boat wouldn't come up to tempature (raw water system), which the gauge indicated so I'm assuming that works. Never seen any oil in the block and I've pulled the motor to inspect it. Water jackets look good, no ring wear, no bearing wear. I don't beach the boat at all. I don't come off of full throttle quickly as the 2001-13 Merc bulliten suggests. I pull all the blue drainage plugs in the winter as I live in the mountains and it does drop below freezing. Most of the time I'm fishing so the big motor just gets me there and then I transfer to the kicker.

So the problem is, now that I'm putting new heads in at $980 a piece from mercury, how the heck do I avoid this from happening in the future? Has this happened to anyone else? Any ideas out there?

I'm totally at a loss as to how this happened.

Thanks

Ski
 

Boomyal

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Re: Cracked Heads Merc 305

One word Ski, CHEVROLET!:eek:

Naw just kidding (maybe), I hope someone chimes in here. It does sound like a mystery. Overheat woulda taken the head gasket and freeze woulda taken the block and mani's. It seems not to be a defect as it happened to both sides. Excessive advance would taken the pistons and excessive retard would have caused overheating.

Doesn't seem to me that there coulda been anything that you might have done wrong that would not have shown up in another way.
 

Reel Poor

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Were the head bolts tight when you removed the head?

I can't explain the problem based on your post, but I can tell you, it takes HEAT to warp and crack a head.
 

Ski19570

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Boomyal said:
One word Ski, CHEVROLET!:eek:

Naw just kidding (maybe), I hope someone chimes in here. It does sound like a mystery. Overheat woulda taken the head gasket and freeze woulda taken the block and mani's. It seems not to be a defect as it happened to both sides. Excessive advance would taken the pistons and excessive retard would have caused overheating.

Doesn't seem to me that there coulda been anything that you might have done wrong that would not have shown up in another way.
 

Ski19570

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Bommyal,

I know what you mean. I keep looking for an answer so it won't happen again. I can tell you I did the same things with my old boat and ran it for 18 years, bought it new and never had anything like this happen. Actually was never even towed off the water but it was a four bangar volvo with a volvo outdrive. Hard to believe and I do hope someone does have some sort of answer. Vancuover huh. Will be passing your way in a couple of weeks up to Petersberg Alaska for some fishing. At least my buddies boat works!!! Thanks for the reply.

Reel Poor,

I was told they were tight although they didn't take them off with a tourqe wrench like I would have. I would have first filled the cylinders with some oil and rechecked the compression and then pulled the heads checking the tourge. But heres what I did. When I got the exhaust and the risers off and isolated that those weren't the problem I called the factory because the boat was just out of the extended warrenty. I was told if I removed the heads that there was no chance that merc would cover it. So I took it to them. When I was told about the heads I ran down ( I live about a hour up in the mountains) asked the guy about the head bolts and I was told he just backed them out but they were tight. So I'll really never know. Too boot merc has bocked on covering it anyway so I wish I would have done it here. My guy at the shop even called them and told them how "anal" I was about maintaining it because when i called them the guy read back his report. (number one in customer satisfaction they say?? Wonder who they're asking) The factory had suggested I buy a whole new engine at this point!! The way I treat the motor and the fact I had never seen any moistuer in the drained oil (put it in a clean dry clear milk container and check it after say two days) I told them that if I buy a new engine we'll have to remove the old one right? They agreed. So I told them lets get it out and inspect it. We're not loosing anything. I then sat and watched them remove the block (kinda fun actually as I could point and tell the what I would do without actually doing the work). I was having a hard time believing the lower end was gone. We went through the pistons, rings bearings and such with me sitting right there. Nothing wrong. I went through the water jackets with the old flash light no sign of blockage or damage and I've never had any water in the bielge. Actually the boat has never even been in salt water so all the cooling ports looked like day one week one. All this said (looking up, damn I'm writting a book, scotch may be kicking in here) I agree with you that cracked/warped heads come with heat. But the boat never showed it. No smell, no idication on the gauge, even the day I noticed it was running a rough at 3000 RPM it started fine and ran fine, temp was fine until I reached that RPM where it lundged a bit. So here's where I'm at now.

Get a infared heat sensor and track it after the motors back in. Second put a internal cooling system in. I'm thinking MAYBY air trapped inside not letting the water cool that portion of the engine?? Searching here but don't want it to happen again. Besides if the impellar, water pump, thermostat, flappers and such are all good should this be happening? Not if it's engineered right and put together right. Sorry for the long post. I type 90 words a minute being I write software for a living and to be honest I'm pissed. Not one of those guy's that doesn't maintain my boat. My theory is you do your work before you hit the water so you don't have those problems when you try to enjoy it.

Ski
 

Reel Poor

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Re: Cracked Heads Merc 305

Ski19570 said:
Hi,

I have had one problem with the cooling system and that was the thermostat stuck open and boat wouldn't come up to tempature (raw water system), which the gauge indicated so I'm assuming that works.

What did the guage show the temp was?
How many hours were on the motor then?
How long did you run the engine with this condition?

 

calwldlif

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Re: Cracked Heads Merc 305

I know of quite a few 305 cheby
heads that crack. No rhyme or
reason. I personnelly think the casting
mold has potential for poor metal
in certain ports.
 

Ski19570

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Reel Poor,

I believe the gauge showed 140 (boats at the yard. I know where it was position wise but can't get to it now). Wasn't running where it was pegged cold it was half way between there and proper operating tempeture halfway. I show in my records this was replaced at 205 hours, right after the tune up was done 195 hours. The motor ran for no more than 20 minites twice. I noticed the problem and let the boat run for what seemed longer than I normally do to get it to normal temp (20 minutes). I shut it off opened the egine compartment and did an inspection then stayed local as the lake I was at gets nasty real quick. Don't want to be out there with a iffy motor. It's one of those lakes I consider a two motor lake and I was down to one, my kicker which is 15 HP. I fished for about an hour and it sucked so I wanted to move. I fired the motor again and ran back towards the dock (which was in the direction I would head to the next fishing spot anayway) watching the temp gauge. Went to the same spot so I shut it down and the boat went on the trailer. As I recall (been two years and it was winter) I ordered a new thermostat on my cell on the way home Sunday. Monday I pulled the thermostat and tested it on the stove and it was bad. Tuesday the UPS truck showed up and it was replaced and tested. Next weekend I was fishing again and no problems with that since.

Ski
 

Ski19570

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Re: Cracked Heads Merc 305

calwldlif said:
I know of quite a few 305 cheby
heads that crack. No rhyme or
reason. I personnelly think the casting
mold has potential for poor metal
in certain ports.
 

Ski19570

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Re: Cracked Heads Merc 305

Cal,

I'm beginning to think the same. But how much does one put into it to find out. Like I mentioned before I fish some pretty nasty lakes, at times, can't have a motor that will leave me stranded. Love to boat. Don't want to die doing it. And I'm not sure whether I would ever buy another merc after this. Too soon for these sort of problems and honestly my friends tell me If they owned a boat they would want me to take care of it..

Ski
 
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