De-carbon your motor pics

devl

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I wanted to list this for everyone to see what actually happens when you decarb your motor so first timers know what they are getting into. http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=158076&highlight=decarbThe first time I did a decarb I was in the middle of nowhere and the engine wasnt that bad. This time Im in the middle of a community and did not expect this result....so be warned!

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TwoFish

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

Love the smell of two stroke in the morning!
 

roscoe

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Look ma, no mosquitos tonight !!!
 

fucawi

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

yes but is it the carbon burning off ( HOW CAN CARBON BURN ?) or just the oil product you added ?
 

reddogg

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

Hehe, I can't stand my neighbors, can't wait to do that:)

Red
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

Another good reason not to use that stuff!

Modern TCW-3 has additives that will 1. keep carbon from forming, and 2. slowly remove any deposits that do form.
 

devl

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

yes but is it the carbon burning off ( HOW CAN CARBON BURN ?) or just the oil product you added ?

Before and after compression checks convinced me.

fucawi - 1st run tons of smoke, 2nd run less smoke, 3rd run almost no smoke.....all with the same mixture of 'oil product'

foodfisher - average 120 on all 4 before, 140 after, I think it worked =)
 

fucawi

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I am with Frank on this one
 

chrome dome

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

isn't that how all Chryslers run?




l'm sorry, couldn't help meself....
 

JB

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I don't see a hose, muffs or any other source of cooling. (Well, there is a bit of green hose showing in pic #1.) Please don't let people think you don't need water.

Frank & Fucawi: Back when we burned 30W motor oil and accumulated a lot of carbon we cleaned our outboards, chainsaws and Model A Fords by adding water to the intakes of warmed up engines running at around 1500-2000rpm, which steam cleaned the combustion chambers, rings, etc.

Got a lot of mixed smoke and steam and, when done right, surgically clean engines.

Modern decarb products work and are a lot more idiot proof. Dramatic improvements in compression are, I think, acceptable evidence of that.
 

devl

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

I don't see a hose, muffs or any other source of cooling. (Well, there is a bit of green hose showing in pic #1.) Please don't let people think you don't need water.

Absolutely had muffs and a strong hose hooked up....thought that would be common knowledge but a good point.

Frank with an older unknown internal condition motor I think this worked very well as confirmed by the compression results. I am of course using TCW-3 oil in it now.

Chrome dome - that reminded me of my friends Chrysler Cordoba, a virtual land yacht that smoked like smoke was going out of style!
 

Karla45

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Frank & Jerry,
What about using Mecury's Kwik Kleen sometimes, I have some of this but have not used it yet.
 

cmjust0

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

I decarbon'd mine with deep creep the other day, and the water started coming out black as soon as it began smoking.. I'm a skeptic, so at first I didn't necessarily chalk that up to carbon being burned off...until it started coming out clear with little honey-colored slicks of the sea foam oil..

For the record -- it still was smoking, even with clear water.. I absolutely do believe that's just the seafoam itself burning..

And while I didn't do before/after compression tests, I knew going in that my middle cylinder was a bit lower compression than top and bottom just from turning it by hand.. When I was done, the motor was just overall more difficult to turn over by hand and I could just *barely* tell that one cylinder was lower compression.. Took me a couple of full revolutions to decide if one cylinder was still lower at all, and it was fairly obvious before.

Plus, the thing just *ran better* after that..

Perhaps it's possible that this works really well for outboards which have a ton of carbon, and doesn't do much for outboards that are already in pretty good shape, and that folks who haven't been able to get any benefit from it are folks who *really know* outboard motors and don't do the things that cause carbon to build up in the first place...like run their motors for long periods of time at idle speed, or have them overpropped, etc.. I don't *know* that, of course...I'm just speculating.

And for the record, I know better than to do some of the things I do with mine, but I catch myself doing them anyway.. Like, letting it idle forever, etc.. Plus, I didn't own this boat for the first 10 years of its life, so who knows what it was put through before that..

I certainly liked seeing *clear* water coming out the back with those little honey droplets, though. :)
 

Jiggz

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

Water still works perfectly except you need to make sure to run the engine a little bit more after to make sure it's not bare metal waiting to rust. I used seafoam and it works great too.
 

bentle

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Re: De-carbon your motor pics

WOW!! That's not normal? Lololol. I bet when mine floats by they say. (Check out that
refinery!!) Lololololol.
 
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