Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Augoose

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I knew it was too good to be true. Got up early (06:00 am) with all the bass fisherman and took the bow rider out to catch some striper. Everything was going great, caught several, and then I decided to head in. Clean up my tackle, put away some gear and then tried to start the boat- "click".

I'm thinking, surely I didn't drain the battery sitting with only the fishfinder for 2-3 hours, so I switched to battery #2 (been down this road before so now I have 2 batteries with a perko swtich!). - "Click".

As the sinking feeling overcomes me, I switch to "all" to get whatever cranking power I can out of the batterys- "Click". So now I'm thinking my 1 year old starter / solenoid has bit the dust. I tried jumping the terminals, tapping, cleaning, whacking, praying, cursing, some more cursing, followed by some more praying, all to no avail. "Click".

So I break out the blackberry and search iboats- check the "ignition fuse, check the battery connection, check for a bad ground, check the breaker, jump this, jump that, look for power here, there and everywhere....(luckily I had a meter in my tool kit :D ). Couldn't find the "ignition fuse" but that didn't stop me from wasting time checking just about every fuse I could get my greasy fingers on. "Click".

According to my meter, the dash had power (swtiches, accessories, blower all worked) but the dash voltmeter read 0 volts. Now I'm not even getting the "Click", nothing happens when I turn the key. I've gone from bad to worse....:facepalm:

So its about 10:00 am, fellow fisherman are screaming by me to get back home while I drift with the dog house sitting in the bow, jump seats sitting on the lounge seats, and the whole boat looking like a gypse caravan. Finally I drift close enough to shore that a home owner notices me and asks if I need help - the answer is yes. At the same time a very nice couple who was entertaining another couple came by and asked if I needed help - they were SO KIND and towed me about a 1/2 mile back to the public dock.

So I'm back to the dock and planning on getting my 22 year old boat out of the water. I then realize I have another problem - I can't get my lower unit up because there is no power on that side of the boat. Having been down THIS road before as well, I work on getting temporary 12v to the proper terminal on the "up" solenoid so I can jump the solenoid and get the heck out of dodge. As I grab the 10 gauge line running from the starter solenoid to the trim system, I notice that suddenly I have power again. I try the starter - the engine turns over.

In my haste of earlier troubleshooting, I sold myself on the idea that my boat was suffering from a significant and very complicated electrical malfunction - a bad starter solenoid, bad slave solenoid perhaps.....nope - one of my negative terminals on my battery was corroded and had come loose. :facepalm:

When the problem first started, I checked the battery connections. Correction, I "visually" checked the terminals, and clearly that wasn't enough. I cleaned the connection, tightened it up and VROOM, the engine started right up.

I gathered what was left of my troubleshooting confidence, put the boat on the trailer and headed home to put my boat back together.

Just thought I'd share for a good laugh. I did however get the opportunity to return the karma favor to another boater who couldn't lower their lower unit - got him fixed and on his way.

I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable Labor Day.
 

The Rooster

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Sorry to hear about your troubles "Augoose". Appreciate you sharing the story though. Good reminder for me. No way it was a Mercury !!! Just kidding !!!
 

mpdive

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

My wife says we men make things more complicated than they really are. She says that if I would read the map we wouldn't get lost. Men don't read maps! Glad it worked out for you, and I have done the same thing.
 

The Famous Grouse

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Glad you got out of the jam, but I have a question.

If only one of your neg terminals was loose or corroded, why didn't the electrical work when you switched to the other battery?

Just wondering if there's something I should be aware of when it comes to the A/B/Both switch. If one battery is bad, or disconnected, does nothing else work?

Grouse
 

sublauxation

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Don't feel bad. I swapped out a flywheel on a car and evidently forgot to tighten a ground completely. In 2 weeks I fried 3 alternators and a set of computers before I finally found it. The wire looked tight and felt tight, until you really got in there to wiggle it. Glad your's wasn't too bad.
 

ac0j

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

I finally got the boat out on a lake for the first time this year, All was well, until my son accidently broke the key off in the ignition switch while landing a walleye. The switch seemed to work ok when I put the broken off part into the hole, it would turn fine. I decided to do one more drift before it got too dark. After that drift, with darkness setting in, I went to put in the key half, WONT TURN! Crap! Almost dark, only boat on the lake, 4 miles from the dock. The ignition switch is mounted in the throttle control, So I used the multi-bit screw driver and channel lock pliers (all the tools on the boat) And tore apart the throttle control. NO MULTIMETER! wire colors on the switch dont match what is on the motor side. I unpluuged all the wires to look for markings on the switch, NONE. Tried to hotwire the boat. In the process I found the choke wire, the batt wire, and while trying to find the starter wire, I blew the Fuse in the harness on the motor. NO EXTRA FUSES!
My son is trying to get us back with the trolling motor while I work, against a pretty good wind. I resorted to the Gum wrapper foil on the fuse and got it to run! BUT I had to reassemble the throttle control and remount it to get underway.
Moral of the story, BRING TOOLS and EXTRA FUSES! I am now trying to remove the broken key from the switch!
 

Augoose

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Glad you got out of the jam, but I have a question.

If only one of your neg terminals was loose or corroded, why didn't the electrical work when you switched to the other battery?

Just wondering if there's something I should be aware of when it comes to the A/B/Both switch. If one battery is bad, or disconnected, does nothing else work?

Grouse

Well, I had mine wired like in the color diagram with the outboard - I connected the ground from battery 2 to the ground on battery 1, then connected battery 1 to the main ground lead. This is where the disconnect was - battery 1 to the main ground. If you have both battery grounds independently wired to the ground, then you're fine- like in the non-color diagram. I piggy backed mine and this wasn't the best idea.
 

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Silvertip

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

The lesson for anyone that experiences a "mysterious" and "sudden" loss of electrical power is to check the battery connections FIRST. Checking does not mean "looking" at them. Disconnect, clean and retighten. Since battery cables have two ends, cleaning one end does not mean there isn't a problem on the other end..
 

The Famous Grouse

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Well, I had mine wired like in the color diagram with the outboard - I connected the ground from battery 2 to the ground on battery 1, then connected battery 1 to the main ground lead. This is where the disconnect was - battery 1 to the main ground. If you have both battery grounds independently wired to the ground, then you're fine- like in the non-color diagram. I piggy backed mine and this wasn't the best idea.

Good point. As it shows in the diagram, assuming the battery on the left is #1 and the right is #2. If the neg terminal on #1 is corroded, then using the #2 battery will have no effect.

Very good to know.

Grouse
 

Augoose

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Wow - the hits just keep on coming.....
My truck was broken into today- wife's purse, credit cards, phone all gone. If I've told my wife once I've told her a thousand times "DON'T LEAVE THINGS OUT IN PLAIN SIGHT". Where was her purse? On the floor board. But she said it was "tucked up under there." Ayuh.
The &^*$% used a prybar on my door which dented both the front and rear doors only to give up and break the glass.
3 hours on the phone to change bank information. I need a vacation from my weekend.
 

The Rooster

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Dude, you're killing me. Hope it gets better. I'd tell you to move down here, but trust me, crime is worse around here. Good luck !!!
Wow - the hits just keep on coming.....
My truck was broken into today- wife's purse, credit cards, phone all gone. If I've told my wife once I've told her a thousand times "DON'T LEAVE THINGS OUT IN PLAIN SIGHT". Where was her purse? On the floor board. But she said it was "tucked up under there." Ayuh.
The &^*$% used a prybar on my door which dented both the front and rear doors only to give up and break the glass.
3 hours on the phone to change bank information. I need a vacation from my weekend.
 

Augoose

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Thanks for the positive support. At this point I'm just looking forward to going to work.
 

Augoose

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Update- Completely off topic by this point, but we arrested the guy responsible for the break-in today. At least he'll be off the streets for a little while.
 

kemer1

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Re: Dead in the water...don't forget to check the small things!

Don't feel so bad. I was out with my dad on his bass boat, and we ended up going up the river a bit then beached and did our thing. He brought two more of his friends as well. So as we start packing things up and getting ready go my dad decides to start the motor up. Primes the fuel bulb, goes to turn the key and we get cranking but no fire. So my dad goes on this extensive exporation of what was wrong with his boat. Takes the top of the outboard off and pokes around for a bit. Takes the plugs out and the whole thing. Turns out someone tripped the kill switch while getting out and we spent an hour and a half trying to track a non existent problem.
 
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