Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

BRG25

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Just removed all 4 tires on my car and the lug nuts and studs are really rusty. I hear differing oppinions on Never Seez. What do you guys think?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Brian
 

K Hultgre

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Dab of wheel bearing grease will do the trick. personally think anti-seeze and the likes are too slippery for lug nuts
 

vipzach

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I also put just a dab of bearing grease on my lug nuts.
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I grab the nearest grease gun and use whatever is in it. You will regret using Never-Seize if you get a flat and have to change it with good clothes on.
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I do not put anything on the car nuts, but the boat trailer nuts and everything else I can see is covered in any grease I can find, as someone said "any grease is better than no grease"
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I use anti seize on lug studs and anything else that gets removed periodically like break caliper bolts and sliders. Works great but yeah it's messy and does not come out of clothes.
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Use it all the time,working on cars is supposed to be messy :D :D Think that's why they invented disposible latex gloves,use them all the time too
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I've been Slathering Every Wheel Stud with Never-Sieze for the last 35 years,......... ;) <br />
You will regret using Never-Seize if you get a flat and have to change it with good clothes on.
'Course,........<br />I haven't owned Clothes that didn't have a Grease Stain somewhere on them,... for 40 years Either................ :D
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Dolluper, did you see the American Chopper episode where the dad was ranting about everyone wearing latex gloves, "like they are some kind of doctor", it was hilarious to see him just go off like that.
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

haha, It's a magnet to clothes fer sher!<br />It works great.
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I helped an older couple change a flat a couple of years back. I felt bad when one of the four studs snapped due to rust. The others were a bear also. I'll bet their car had spent some time up north!
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Well az fireboy63 when you are working with alot of grease it sure helps,instead of wiping your hands with a rag every 2 seconds so you can have a grip,the only downfall is your hands sweat.Don't get that show,but I have seen it at friends place,we use ANTENNA---VISION :D :D
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Thx dolluper, I haven't been called a boy since that time in an Arkansas public restroom when I dropped my cellphone....
 

BRG25

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Thanks guys...slapped some wheel bearing grease on there and called it good.
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Never put lube on wheel nuts...<br />Unless you see a spec. for a specific application that gives a specific torque for a specific lubricant, clean and dry is the rule!<br /><br />Better to rust than loosen.<br /><br />If you lube, lube the threads after assembly and after torque to prevent rust.<br />If you DO lube before assembly, cut the torque by at least 25%.. but it's a guess at best, you're really taking a chance, the actual stud stretch varies a lot with different lubes. Stretch those studs past their elastic range, into their plastic range and LOOK OUT for yielding bolts and flying wheels....<br /><br />Generally, 10%-30% of dry coarse thread torque turns into stretch. 70-90% is overcoming nut to rim friction, uncleanable debris, and thread friction. The torque spec. they give you is based on this.<br />Add a lube like moly and that number for stretch can go to 60% of the input torque!<br /><br />(This is why the guys building race motors don't use a torque wrench on con rod bolts, they use a vernier caliper to measure stretch!.. bolts and studs are like elastic clamps -& they have a very small range of stretch before they yield)<br /><br />On cars that have only 4 studs per wheel it is even more critical torque is applied properly.<br /><br />Here in Ontario, flying truck wheels were at epidemic levels into the late 90's...there were some horrific deaths on the 401 highway through the Toronto corridor....it got no better when techs started increasing torque values thinking they were helping... we really learned a lot of stuff about torque in the few years that was going on... seems almost a non-issue now... despite poor roads, 53' trailers, 600+HP and 75 mph a typical combo
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I found Hystats post interesting so I did a little research myself to see what I could find on the subject. I never gave this a thought but it does make sense. <br /> About 90% of a torque specification is used to overcome friction; only 10% of the specified twisting effort provides clamping force. It is no surprise then that most lubricant tables recommend a 40-45% reduction of applied torque when using anti-sieze on a bolt. So, a lugbolt coated with anti-sieze should be tightened to a maximum of 49 ft-lbs. Tightening this lugnut to 85 ft-lbs. means it is now over-torqued by 73%! Considering that most torque specs stretch a bolt to within 70% of its elastic limit, over-torquing by 73% will easily send the bolt or stud well beyond its elastic limit-and could be dangerously close to its failure point
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

I put some sort of lube on the mating surface of the rim and the brake drum/rotor/axle hub - ESPECIALLY if it is an alloy rim! It's no fun to get the lugs off and then find that the rim will not come off due to electrolysis "welding" it on!
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Originally posted by KilroyJC:<br /> I put some sort of lube on the mating surface of the rim and the brake drum/rotor/axle hub - ESPECIALLY if it is an alloy rim! It's no fun to get the lugs off and then find that the rim will not come off due to electrolysis "welding" it on!
Ayuh,..........<br /><br />I Haven't been convinced to Stop Slathering Every wheel I put together with Never-Sieze...........<br /><br />I'm the Guy with his hand on the Wrench,.........<br />I Know when it's Tight Enough,....... It's the achris "Educated Elbow"........ ;) <br /><br />And Another Thing,.............<br /><br />Nut's Strip when Over-Torqued,......... <br />Studs Rarely Snap,........ Unless they're Rusted Solid,+ I've got a BIG Cheater Pipe on it,..... :D <br /><br />Or,... Maybe,.. When I Stumble onto a Lefthanded Lug Nut................................................... :D :D
 

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Re: Do you put Never Seez on your lug nut studs?

Any fastener that calls for a torque setting should be lubricated first with at least a light oil.
 
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