Emotionally Drained

tylerin

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Re: Emotionally Drained

I thought alot about you yesterday Mayfloat and wish you the best of luck with your situation. I always look at the glass half full, and have to think something good will come of this. Have fun with your grandson today :)
 

jsfinn

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Mayfloat - stay tough. You're doing the right thing. You're not putting your son through anything - he's doing it to himself because YOU are doing the right thing - so as hard as it may seem, don't feel bad. You would be doing the wrong thing by not doing what you're doing.<br /><br />Hang in there, bud.
 

Ralph 123

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SS, Does he know how you are feeling? If he doesn't, do you think it would change his thinking and attitude? It would be very easy for him to feel unloved and abandoned right now and therefore very angry and bitter unless he understands the why of it all and how badly it is hurting you too.
 

aspeck

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SS, thought about you and Carl alot yesterday - said many a prayer for you and your family. Stay strong and keep hanging in there.<br /><br />Had a much different family situation, but it was a difficult one for me that seemed to mend yesterday after about 3 years of struggle. Was a truly joyous Christmas WITH family! Just wanted to let you know, keep hanging in there. It may take a while, but I am sure the final outcome will be good if you stay strong and keep doing the "right thing for Carl."
 

jerzshaw

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my friend,<br /><br />have you thought about writing him a letter? one in which all of your love, advices, concerns feelings would be expressed? often times i can't get my thoughts across as i mean them when i "engage" in a family "combat" where *** for tat and defenses and what not cloud my message. consider it. my dad often communicated with me that way when i was away at college, young, rebellious, and oedipal (sp?). <br /><br />Also i caution you to pay attention closely to the suicide threats. that is a cry out. your son definitley sounds like he is 'using', and maybe he has some issues he is running away from by using.<br /><br />i wish you the lord's love and guidance, as well as your son's love most importantly.
 

mellowyellow

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I wish I had some answers for you SS, but I don't.<br />sometimes just talking about/posting your feelings<br />can help you feel a little better. I hate to say<br />it, but I think things will probably get worse<br />before they get better. don't let that distract<br />you from staying the course. I also share your<br />concern re:not seeing a doctor in all this time.<br />that's BS! your son obviously has some problems<br />he needs to deal with, but I fear the state will<br />deal more with the symptoms than with the real<br />problem. he needs some counseling at the least<br />and a proper medical diagnosis. skipping this<br />step and enetering "juvy" really scares me!<br />those kids in there are prob. even worse than him<br />and it may do more harm than good being around<br />them. they most likely have minimum counseling<br />there at best.<br />you may want to consider speaking with the judge<br />and having him put on conditional probation.<br />the "condition" would be staying clean and <br />successfully completeing some sort of therapy.<br /><br />my heart really goes out to you and Carl.<br />let us know if there is anything at all you need.<br />warmest regards,<br />M.Y.
 

bubbakat

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SS no advice I have can help you but I will say a prayer for you because in my profession I have seen this situation more times then I care to remember. He has to blame someone because he will refuse to believe he is at fault. Let the courts run their course with him because the know what to do.As for him being there five days and not seeing a doctor they are treating him for mental anguish and the doctor won't even tell him he is a doc because he can get more truthful answers this way. <br />Now some advice to you get your self some help because if you keep carrying around all that guilt which is depression you are making yourself a prime candidate for a stroke or heart attack or a nervous break down.<br /> I will say a huge prayer for you
 

BrianFD

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SS, the 'write a letter' advice is a good one! When we were going through hell with my daughter, I wrote her a letter saying how I felt: Depression, anger, sense of hopelessness, then a sense of hope that her treatment was the right way, and on & on. Hand-delivered it during visiting hours, and she tore it up without even opening it. I tried to maintain my composure and acted like it didn't bother me, but it did. Later that night at home, I re-wrote it, almost verbatim, and held on to it until after the whole mess was nothing but a bitter memory. I had nearly forgotten about it when I ran across it again, buried deep in my underwear drawer. When I opened it and read it to myself, I couldn't help but break down in a sobbing fit. Although knowing it all worked out for the better, seeing how I truly felt at the time brought back a flood of disturbing memories and my thoughts at the time. Later, I gathered my courage and gave my daughter the letter. I told her it was the same as the one she ripped up. She took it into her room and closed the door. When she came out a couple of hours later, she was obviously upset and had been crying. She came up to me, gave me a big hug, and thanked me for not giving up on her. She knew that the easiest thing for me to do would have been to wash my hands of her and let her self-destruct. We talked a lot about our lives, trusting that there really is a higher being, and our guardian angels.<br />We're a close family now; much closer than we were when we lived through those times.<br />I guess what I'm trying to say is to never give up on your son. Stick it out, even though he's acting like he'll never forgive you, he will. He's in his own living hell right now, and it'll take a lot of courage and dedication on your part to see it through.<br />We're all pulling for you and know you have a tough time coming still! Keep the faith, you will succeed!
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Finally, the doc called yesterday. He talked to my wife since I was out on a service call.<br />He told her that Carl if very angry with us. DUH? :rolleyes: (It took a college degree to know this?) The doc is surpose to call me today since I'm home. He wants to release him tuesday, but said he could hold him till wednesday morning when he goes to court.<br /><br />I'm reluctant to have him go to juvy. With all the previous trouble he has been in, he feels he is untouchable and can do what he wants because of this feeling. It just hurts me to know I must enforce my tough love upon him. He has the typical thoughts of a teenager being able to do what they please. Of course I have always told him that absolutly nobody is able to just do everything they want to. Society won't allow it.<br /><br />I keep looking at the bright side. With the drugs that were abused, I just might not of had a son right now. I'm looking at this situation as a termporary obstacle and it will be resolved. With or without pain and anguish, WE will get through it.<br /><br />I did write a letter, and of course he did destroy it. <br /><br />I'll post later on what the doc has to say..<br /><br />Thanks very much......your thoughts help lighten the load of depression thats on my mind. :D
 

GodsBeast

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SS, I'm at work and quickly read though your thread, but I wanted to offer you words of encourgement! Your doing the right thing. Stand tight, don't back down now. <br /><br />I know the Doc's remark of him being very angry right now, was weak. These things take time, and this Doc has to build a relationship with a very angry young man, before diagnosis and build a trust that he/she can work with for improvement. Your fears of Abandoning him, might be the hardest thing for you to battle, but might just be exactly what your son needs right now, no family involved to cling too, and only those that CAN give unbiased and Professional Help. You don't want to start a pattern of the revolving door, where you have him picked up, bond out, let him play on your feelings, and repeat the process. You have tired every thing else that you could think of. Think of the concequences of how bad that situation could have been, if he was forced to deal with, or encounterd an untrained and/or uncaring opposition. <br /><br />Your taking steps in a new direction, I encourage you to follow through, don't give up now. The toughest love is the hardest to stick too and go through, and you can only hope for later rewards, which we all hope will be greater for your efforts. Giving in now, will be just another temporary Bandaid. <br /><br />My prayers are with you and your family.
 

crazy charlie

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Hang in there SS.It will probably take a long time but hopefully some day he will realize that you did what was best for him.Im sure it was hard for you to do,but you are helping him without doubt!!Right now it is on your mind every moment and you are constantly trying to think of ways you can make all this better.This you cant help because you care so much.At this point any and everything you do will get him angry.It is time you stop trying to solve this problem immediately.there is no quick solution that you or anyone else can come up with.TIME is the only thing that will help.It took a long time for him to take on this personna and it will take even longer for him to see the light.Best to stop trying to make him less mad at you.He needs to realize that you mean business and you are not flexible.He needs help and you are helping him.Keep praying and we will all pray too.Take a step back and let everything calm a little before you try to help again and agitate the situation.If I were you I would be pissed royally,so stop trying to make him feel better.Right now it is better that he knows you are pissed rather than sorry!!! Sincerely Charlie
 

jeff92799

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i feel for you dude. <br /><br />let me tell you whats going on here, maybe you will feel better. <br /><br />im 21. my father left about 2 weeks ago. Walked out on my mother. im married, i havent lived at home for about a year but my mother is devastated and i love my mom, dont know how that can happen after 40 years of marrige. my wife (also high school sweetheart)just left me. she was in school 100 miles away and met someone else. i spent christmas alone, first time in YEARS without her. Now, i just have been drinking alot :( <br /><br />life sucks sometimes :( <br />im young, but i still made a life for myself and it's ripped apart now :( <br /><br />life goes on i guess *shrug*
 

MichaelMullis

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SS, I am in the same sit. with daughter, not son. Our troubles started when she was 14. Sneaking out at night, stealing, lies on top of lies, and trieing to beat on mother. We finally had to get DJJ involved to protect us incase she got into trouble with law outside of home. Every time she doesn't get her way or we tell her NO she gets abusive to us and if she gets rooling really well she will threaten to have me put in jail for sexual abuse.This is not true but as she puts it , "I have to prove that she is lieing". She has been in detention 3 times since 2001 for incorigability. Now she knows just how far she can push with out go to jail. She has no respect for anyone including the law. All we can do is protect ourselfs untill she is 18, then she will be put out of our home. It is frustrating to have a teenager that will destroy the home and threaten the safety of all who live in the home, knowing that the police can only respond and write reports. Now at 17 she is worse than ever. We have been in family therapy for two years now and they all say the same thing " she has made up her mind about how she wants to live and we cannot change it" We have even been told that we need to let her come and go as she pleases. We have gotten to the point that my wife nor myself will be alone with her. She is big enough to hurt my wife,has in past, and I will not be around her alone Just in case she does try to have me jail for abuse. We love our daughter very much, but sometime you have to say "we cannot keep living like this", and prepare for change. She will ,hopefully, graduate in July and will be 18 in Oct. at this time if things have not changed we will escort her to street with her belongings. I know a lot of people think that this is extreme but after living with this for 3 years we do not see any other option. At that point if she comes back we may have her arrested for trespasing. I do want to add that when you have someone in the house that is like this it is like being in prison yourself.We are afraid to go on vacations because she will not go with us and when we left her with friends in past she ran away and broke into our home,broke window and kicked in door.We had to put a steel door with deadbolt on our bedroom because she would kick in door to plunder for money. She is not on drugs, we have had her tested several times and they always come back NEG. I will do for you as we do for ourselves. PRAY<br />Hope things get better for you<br />Michael
 

boatingfool

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Sorry to hear of your troubles Baitkiller. :( <br /><br />But in todays world it is a little harder to claim sexual abuse with all the DNA technology.<br /><br />Its no longer just a "He said She Said" thing.<br /><br />Good luck and I hope things work out.<br /><br />I have a 14 yr old daughter and I am deathly afraid of the scenario you just described.<br /><br />She is getting a little head strong but isnt quite to that point yet.<br /><br />Are there any support groups out there??
 

BrianFD

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boatingfool,<br />I think you're in one...<br /><br />baitkiller,<br />If your daughter has threatened you or your family, or has actually attacked, that should constitute assault and battery, an arrestable offense. At the least, I'd be checking with the prosecutor to see if a restraining order or an order of protection can be filed on her. Next time she makes threats against you or the family, you can have her arrested for violating the order. Time for that little girl to grow up fast!
 
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