Engine compression question

karayj

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I have a 1989, 3.7 MerCruiser the infamous 470. Apparently I’m not 100% sure.

I ran a compression test because I’m having this seasonal issue with carburetor’s. I’m on my third one all rebuilt several times because of stalling issues after running for about 60 seconds. No this seems to have occurred on all three carburetors. I will say that none of them are new. I bought some decent looking used ones bought a rebuild kit and did it myself I’ve been rebuilding carburetor since I was 20. so my first question is a compression test because I did the head gasket three years ago as precautionary because I heard these things can overheat so I did a dry test cylinders on cylinders 1 2 3 they all came to 150 on the last cylinder in the back I came up to 130. NowI did a wet test and the wet test came up with all four cylinders 150. Is that acceptable on cylinder four of being 20 PSI off?
My next question is, should I purchase a carburetor and enough with rebuilding these things I replace the fuel pump I was suspicious that there might’ve been air in the line because it has that same scenario. I saw a YouTube video and it was showing a guy that was starting off his boat and running perfectly fine for about 90 seconds, then it would bog and almost stall he would then put it in neutral, and it would slowly regain idle.
He was not able to go full throttle again for at least two minutes and then the second he gave it full throttle, and It did the same thing. Well it turns out that he had air pockets. That’s why I’m changing the fuel pump again. I also heard that these fuel pumps can go bad after a while. My fear is I buy a carburetor for $150 or $200 and it doesn’t solve my problem and it turns out it was something else.

Right now all three carburetors the second I try to accelerate it or give it some gas it just bogs down and dies, I’m using an electric pump for fuel or the mechanical fuel pump. In both cases, the carburetors do the same thing with all three carburetors. My buddy is convinced that there’s something in the fuel tank but I replace the anti-siphoning valve and tube for the fuel tank so there’s no clogging there. What strange is one time last summer? I took my friend out and I want to model think we can make it from one into the lake to the other but he said screw and give it a shot and we able to go from one end to the other with no problems 80% throttle we went for a swim.

We did the same thing on the way back, but it started to Bog and buck. I had to throttle back, and we had to idle all the way back in every time I tried to give it gas. It was just shutter and almost die so I quickly throw it back into neutral let the idle straighten out and catch up and then put it back into gear. I would just like to have one great summer where I can go from one into the lake with the other like I used till two years ago without any problems. I don’t mind buying a carburetor what I do. Mine is buying a carburetor and having the same issue going great I just threw away $150 that’s not my style because I’m a mechanic and I usually fix everything myself whether it’s cars or the boats.
 

Dubed

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I would think a 4th carb won't solve a problem that the other 3 didn't fix. Sounds like fuel delivery could be an issue. Filters are new? Water separator?
Maybe distributor not advancing...
 

karayj

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I would think a 4th carb won't solve a problem that the other 3 didn't fix. Sounds like fuel delivery could be an issue. Filters are new? Water separator?
Maybe distributor not advancing...
New fuel Pump 2 years ago / New inline filter/ No water separator/ No water ever seen in the carbs. The tube and the screen in the tank are new. The anti siphon valve has been replaced with an open one. I am in the process of setting up a 2 gallon tank and eliminating the gas tank. I will install a new standard pump today and also run that and a 3-6 psi electric pump that i set up. If it still bogs if has to be the carbs are just old and worn.
Timing is spot on / new points / Dwell is good.
 

Scott Danforth

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yes your compression is fine

No, do not buy a new carburetor. there have not been new quadrajet carbs since 1990. rebuild yours with proper rebuild kits from places like Mikes, or the carburetor shop.

a good carburetor will be more than $150. only chinese junk will cost that cheap.

throw away the electric fuel pump, get a good Carter marine electric pump and make sure the fuel pressure is 4-6 psi

the bogging is either your accelerator pump circuit has dirt in it from running without a filter, or you have a fuel supply issue. checking fuel pressure will tell the tale.

if your inline fuel filter is one of those plastic things, throw it away. not only are they only an 80 micron filter at best, those are illegal in a boat. only glass or metal filters allowed. suggest getting a proper fuel / water separating filter.

As a mechanic, start troubleshooting. the motor you have in your boat is no more advanced than a 1960 truck motor. it has points, and a carb. which is high-school autos 101

check fuel pressure
make sure that your accelerator pump is working
check ignition dwell and timing.
 
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