eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

cartercu

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i have a eska 7hp 1747 d outboard was running fine for the last few trips, then all of a sudden the gas cap started popping off, then it died. won't start or even try to start now. was the simplest thing too start before this.

any suggestions
 

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Re: eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

i have a eska 7hp 1747 d outboard was running fine for the last few trips, then all of a sudden the gas cap started popping off, then it died. won't start or even try to start now. was the simplest thing too start before this. any suggestions

An observation: "Gas cap popping off" would make Sheerluck Holmes pull his hair out if that was the only clue he was given!

But we'll make some assumptions and attempt a Holmsian solution:

Assuming the gas tank referred to in the indictment is the on-board tank the only thing that would make it 'pop off' would be increased internal pressure.

But what could cause increased pressure?:eek:

Two things would be required:

1. Vent hole in gas cap not opened or stopped up.

2. Additional heat load in the tank.

The less said about the former the better!

What might cause the latter?

An overheated engine cylinder immediately below the tank springs to mind as the most logical assumption.

"But what would cause that" you ask.

Only insufficient cooling CAN cause it! It's hardly reasonable to think that even the dim-witted or deaf would fail to note that the flywheel had suddenly and catastrophically shed all the cooling fins so we're left with only a single conclusion acceptable to the reasonable mind----the waterpump failed.

If so and it was ran long enough without sufficient cooling to cause internal pressure build-up from excessive heat load to cause the gas cap to 'blow off' then the logical mind assumes some measure of internal damage. The fact that a previously amenable engine will no longer run exacerbates the suspicion

So you have some tests in front of you-----preceded by a LOT of rational thinking.

Sure hope Holmes over-thought the problem!:D
 

kfa4303

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Re: eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

Cartercu, Holmes I mean Tom is right, as usual :) Although, how many times is "started popping off"? 2 ? 20? In reference to Tom's water pump suggestion, did you notice reduced or lack of water out of the motor prior to it failing? That would be a sure sign that it had indeed failed.
However, you said that it won't start either which it should still be able to do, albeit unadvisedly, even without a water pump, which leads me to believe, in my highly unqualified opinion, that it may be more of an iginiton issue such as a blown coil, or bad points, etc... which would explain the sudden loss of function and inability to start. The gas cap may be a quirky, but unrelated issue. We call them Zebras in medicine. Just pontificating:) Be sure to start with the simplest things first, even if they seem silly. No need to major surgery, if minor surgery will do. Good luck!
 
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mrcrabs

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Re: eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

1747d is a solid state ignition, you need to pull the plug, ground it and check for spark,
 

kfa4303

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Re: eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

solid sate eh. That may explain it. It seems like I've heard read lots about solid state electronic components failing with surprising regularity and with little or no notice. Someone in the forum even said that they always carry extra power packs for that very reason. I've also heard folks here in the forums discourage the conversion from points to powerpacks b/c of their unreliability. If these electronic componets are so prone to failure, why are they used? Are they more efficient somehow, or just cheaper for manufacturers to use? Just curious. Thanks. Good luck gettin' her running again.
 
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mrcrabs

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Re: eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

The solid state modual in the tecumseh 2 cycle has a C1 capacitor that is prone to failure...simple to fix if you have the know how. I have a couple at Ed Stollers right now....I highly recomend him for a real working repair that $ wise can't be beat. The Pulse Transformers are not prone to failure but if they fail the fix for them is simple to, or you can replace it with a OMC model...search this forum for that OMC part no. look under tommy 2 strokes post.

look inside the tecumseh SSI
http://enginesandmagnets.com/id9.html
 

cartercu

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Re: eska 7 hp just died and won't start? help

thanks!! looks like i got some testing to do..
 
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